Kate Mulgrew - Orange is the New black
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****Relaxes a bit**** Don't you just love the interwebs sometimes.
The problem with searching for news on this, is that ALMOST every new "item" is just some other news-outlet repeating the Buzzfeed story, often verbatim. 
If anyone here follows the twitter feeds of the cast that supposedly happens every thursday night, please enlighten us if (???) / WHEN (!!!) the subject comes up.
If anyone here follows the twitter feeds of the cast that supposedly happens every thursday night, please enlighten us if (???) / WHEN (!!!) the subject comes up.
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I like this article's reasoning why Alex Vause needs to "stay" on OitNB, if JUST for the idea that Alex provides "50 shades of Orange" to the show.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly...range-is-the-new-black-cant-lose-laura-prepon
Another article wondering about the motivations of the recent trauma... Naturally, I prefer option #1.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/laura-prepon-leaving-orange-is-the-new-black.html
The real Piper, lamenting the conversion of the main Danbury prison to a male only facility, and the effect on women who will be moved to Alabama and beyond.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/opinion/for-women-a-second-sentence.html?_r=2&
http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly...range-is-the-new-black-cant-lose-laura-prepon
Another article wondering about the motivations of the recent trauma...
Naturally, I prefer option #1.http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/laura-prepon-leaving-orange-is-the-new-black.html
The real Piper, lamenting the conversion of the main Danbury prison to a male only facility, and the effect on women who will be moved to Alabama and beyond.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/opinion/for-women-a-second-sentence.html?_r=2&
I'm totally meh about Vause. I see she's a tumblr sensation, *yawn*. I like everyone else better than her.
(I've bookmarked the start of the epic TMWF review btw, just so you know I really am coming back to read it all..)
(I've bookmarked the start of the epic TMWF review btw, just so you know I really am coming back to read it all..)
I see Vause as the brick wall Piper has to slam her head against.
She's an in your face reminder about her crime and why she committed it. Not because she was hungry or homeless or drug addicted and needed her next fix.
Piper broke the law because her lover asked her to do so.
Without Alex around, I think it would be easier for Piper to rationalize it away as "youthful indiscretion" etc, something not "her" fault.
But Alex is a living breathing reminder that while she personally only committed one crime, Piper enjoyed the fruits of the drug trade for (?) 2 years before finally bailing on the relationship.
Alex is also a wonderful bookend to Larry (dangerous vs nebbish) and quite frankly unless one or both grows up/matures, neither is a good match for the woman who's drawn us into this world. (Presuming, of course, that PIPER grows up.)
Here's a great article with LP that was conducted just before the current internet wailing/gnashing of teeth over her future with OitNB.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/laura-prepon-on-the-mystery-of-real-life-alex.html?mid=twitter_nymag
See, TV guide agrees with me. Kind of.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Orange-New-Black-Laura-Prepon-Alex-1069258.aspx
She's an in your face reminder about her crime and why she committed it. Not because she was hungry or homeless or drug addicted and needed her next fix.
Piper broke the law because her lover asked her to do so.
Without Alex around, I think it would be easier for Piper to rationalize it away as "youthful indiscretion" etc, something not "her" fault.
But Alex is a living breathing reminder that while she personally only committed one crime, Piper enjoyed the fruits of the drug trade for (?) 2 years before finally bailing on the relationship.
Alex is also a wonderful bookend to Larry (dangerous vs nebbish) and quite frankly unless one or both grows up/matures, neither is a good match for the woman who's drawn us into this world. (Presuming, of course, that PIPER grows up.)
Here's a great article with LP that was conducted just before the current internet wailing/gnashing of teeth over her future with OitNB.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/laura-prepon-on-the-mystery-of-real-life-alex.html?mid=twitter_nymag
See, TV guide agrees with me. Kind of.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Orange-New-Black-Laura-Prepon-Alex-1069258.aspx
SPOILERS 
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
Episode #12 "FOOL ME ONCE"
Its like 3 am... and if Fig is to be believed, its about 2 weeks after Tricia's hanging, Larry's radio program about Piper and of course, the lovers cellphone breakup.
Piper is making her way through the corridors to the bathroom, mop & bucket at the ready. Its quiet and due to curfew she doesn't expect to find anyone in the bathroom... so naturally we are surprised to find Suzanne mopping her way through cell block E's "facilities".
Piper: Did you get in trouble too?
That's kind of a rude assumption to make, considering we all know that Suzanne's usual job at the prison is janitorial.
Suzanne quickly sets her straight.
Suzanne: Sometimes the feelings inside me get messy like dirt. And I like to clean things. Pretend the dirt is the feelings. This floor is my mind. THAT is called "coping".
Piper tries to apologize for what Larry said on the radio, then tries to minimize what he said, and finally tries to excuse them by claiming that she told Larry those things before she knew who Suzanne truly was.
Crazy Eyes is having nothing to do with this "apology".
Suzanne: Its okay Dandelion, you know why? I used to spend a lot of time thinking HOW I could make you love me. (What an interesting list) Like... if I had long pretty hair, or if I made you a chocolate cake with frosting, or... If I had a green bicycle.
Piper: No... you are great the way you are.
Suzanne: I KNOW. Because, the answer is, you are not a nice person....
Piper: (After the quiet tirade ends) I'm not mean. (Oh really Piper, care to rethink that comment?) ...I didn't mean, to be mean, to you.
Suzanne: (Is she still talking about mopping the floor clean... or scouring Piper's soul clean?) You've got to start from the inside out, or else you'll step on the clean.
When Piper finally leaves her bathroom job, she runs into a familiar face.
Piper: (To Alex) Look at you... waking up for "crack of dawn I Told You So." That's dedication.
Alex: I have to pee. But as long as I'm here, how's that "spontaneous confession" treating you?
Piper: Shittier than I thought... which is impressive considering I'm literally scrubbing toilets.
Alex: You are sucking all the joy out of my gloat.
After two weeks, Alex finally corners Piper on what happened with "the fiancé".
Piper: I accused him of feeding on my misfortune with the sensitivity of a vampire squid (Is there really such a thing?) and he (Piper points briefly at Alex) accused me of betraying him in a disgusting but totally predictable manner. So... we're in a good place.
(Alex sighs... she plays "sympathetic friend oh so well, when she wants to)
Alex: I'm sorry Pipes.
(Oh, what a good opening for the woman torn between two lovers.)
Piper: And that was before he told me that his father, AKA my lawyer, (she glances away briefly) looked at the records and found out that it was you who ratted me out to the Feds.
Uh-oh.
Remember this scene, from episode 3?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-F6u7EroU
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-F6u7EroU[/yt]
Alex: (Looks stunned at Piper's calm revelation) Fuck.
Piper: Don't worry about it. I mean, fool me once... right?
Alex: Okay, listen, (Looks down to gather her argument)
Piper: Alex! I'm over it. (Alex looks into her eyes) Really. Its fine.
Piper surprises the drug dealer by moving in to leave a quick peck on Alex's cheek, then walking quietly away.
One wonders where Piper's attitude comes from at this point. Was it partially due to the dressing down she just received from Suzanne at the beginning of her shift, or as Alex is already suspecting while Piper walks away, is it due to the fact Larry jettisoned his fiancé and Piper is so lonely she'll now accept a previously unacceptable idea.
That her lover has betrayed her.
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
Episode #12 "FOOL ME ONCE"
Its like 3 am... and if Fig is to be believed, its about 2 weeks after Tricia's hanging, Larry's radio program about Piper and of course, the lovers cellphone breakup.
Piper is making her way through the corridors to the bathroom, mop & bucket at the ready. Its quiet and due to curfew she doesn't expect to find anyone in the bathroom... so naturally we are surprised to find Suzanne mopping her way through cell block E's "facilities".
Piper: Did you get in trouble too?
That's kind of a rude assumption to make, considering we all know that Suzanne's usual job at the prison is janitorial.
Suzanne quickly sets her straight.
Suzanne: Sometimes the feelings inside me get messy like dirt. And I like to clean things. Pretend the dirt is the feelings. This floor is my mind. THAT is called "coping".
Piper tries to apologize for what Larry said on the radio, then tries to minimize what he said, and finally tries to excuse them by claiming that she told Larry those things before she knew who Suzanne truly was.
Crazy Eyes is having nothing to do with this "apology".
Suzanne: Its okay Dandelion, you know why? I used to spend a lot of time thinking HOW I could make you love me. (What an interesting list) Like... if I had long pretty hair, or if I made you a chocolate cake with frosting, or... If I had a green bicycle.
Piper: No... you are great the way you are.
Suzanne: I KNOW. Because, the answer is, you are not a nice person....
Piper: (After the quiet tirade ends) I'm not mean. (Oh really Piper, care to rethink that comment?) ...I didn't mean, to be mean, to you.
Suzanne: (Is she still talking about mopping the floor clean... or scouring Piper's soul clean?) You've got to start from the inside out, or else you'll step on the clean.
When Piper finally leaves her bathroom job, she runs into a familiar face.
Piper: (To Alex) Look at you... waking up for "crack of dawn I Told You So." That's dedication.
Alex: I have to pee. But as long as I'm here, how's that "spontaneous confession" treating you?
Piper: Shittier than I thought... which is impressive considering I'm literally scrubbing toilets.
Alex: You are sucking all the joy out of my gloat.
After two weeks, Alex finally corners Piper on what happened with "the fiancé".
Piper: I accused him of feeding on my misfortune with the sensitivity of a vampire squid (Is there really such a thing?) and he (Piper points briefly at Alex) accused me of betraying him in a disgusting but totally predictable manner. So... we're in a good place.
(Alex sighs... she plays "sympathetic friend oh so well, when she wants to)
Alex: I'm sorry Pipes.
(Oh, what a good opening for the woman torn between two lovers.)
Piper: And that was before he told me that his father, AKA my lawyer, (she glances away briefly) looked at the records and found out that it was you who ratted me out to the Feds.
Uh-oh.
Remember this scene, from episode 3?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-F6u7EroU
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-F6u7EroU[/yt]
Alex: (Looks stunned at Piper's calm revelation) Fuck.
Piper: Don't worry about it. I mean, fool me once... right?
Alex: Okay, listen, (Looks down to gather her argument)
Piper: Alex! I'm over it. (Alex looks into her eyes) Really. Its fine.
Piper surprises the drug dealer by moving in to leave a quick peck on Alex's cheek, then walking quietly away.
One wonders where Piper's attitude comes from at this point. Was it partially due to the dressing down she just received from Suzanne at the beginning of her shift, or as Alex is already suspecting while Piper walks away, is it due to the fact Larry jettisoned his fiancé and Piper is so lonely she'll now accept a previously unacceptable idea.
That her lover has betrayed her.
FOOL ME ONCE... continues
We get to see snippets of ancillary characters this "week".
One of my fav's has become Sister Ingalls. Our political prisoner is caught trying to smuggle a muffin out of breakfast. Lucky for her, the guard that caught her was Fischer (the girl who used to bag Piper's groceries) and Fischer let her off with a wink.
Unlucky for Fischer, she was observed by Caputo who would call her on it the next day. Unlucky for the kid because Caputo offers to become her "mentor", to teach her to be tougher with the "inmates", but its obvious he has other ideas in mind for this guard. "You're a woman... I'm a man." DO guys think this is appropriate language for a work environment?
We'll see Sister Ingalls again later, as she tries to teach Piper how to knit a blanket and eventually critiques Piper's attempt at public prayer.
Trust me, it was sweet.
Watson comes to the fore again this week. For some reason, she went to the common room for the yoga class... but it was canceled for the day and probably the week. It was weird later when she ran into Yoga Jones decorating the TV room for the holidays and she brought up the canceled class. Weird because when I first saw this ep, I had forgotten these two women have a history.
Remember when Watson got out of the SHU and went crazy one night, exercising in the dorm and keeping all the other ladies in the ghetto awake?
For reasons we don't understand, Yoga Jones appears and tries to calm Watson down. Watson refuses to calm, and tries to goad the older white woman by guessing what crime landed her in jail. She first accuses her of possible pedophilia, but gets no response. Then she correctly guesses that Yoga Jones killed a kid.
POW!!!!
That got a definite response, as the older woman dropped Namaste and instead went Rocky Balboa on Watson's chin, knocking her back.
That was weeks ago and Watson looks uneasy when she comes into the TV room to reconnect a VCR.
Uneasy because the young woman is on a mission... to get Yoga Jones to talk.
Watson started with the canceled yoga classes and laughed when Jones said she was taking a break, "I thought yoga WAS a break."
When Yoga Jones admitted she couldn't concentrate on yoga since she punched Watson, the young woman convinced her to tell the tale of her crime.
Yoga spun it out initially, with plenty of self deprecating comments along the way. Bottom line, she was raising marijuana to pay her rent and her bar bill. Deer kept grazing on her cash crop and she bought a hunting rifle to deal with the problem. One night, while drunk, she shot at a rustling in her premium weed patch.
But it wasn't a deer.
It was an 8 year old boy from a neighboring farm who had just run away because his dad took away his Nintendo. As Yoga tells Watson, "They buried him in a box on their farm." Officer Fischer arrives to put an end to unauthorized socializing during work hours between the "inmates". (Damn that Caputo and his "mentoring") Lucky for Fischer, Yoga Jones wasn't in a punching mood, she was in a cathartic crying mood, "It was a MISTAKE!" and Watson just growled, "We're having a MOMENT here..." which caused our tenderhearted guard to apologize, back down and leave the room as quick as she came.
TBC
We get to see snippets of ancillary characters this "week".
One of my fav's has become Sister Ingalls. Our political prisoner is caught trying to smuggle a muffin out of breakfast. Lucky for her, the guard that caught her was Fischer (the girl who used to bag Piper's groceries) and Fischer let her off with a wink.
Unlucky for Fischer, she was observed by Caputo who would call her on it the next day. Unlucky for the kid because Caputo offers to become her "mentor", to teach her to be tougher with the "inmates", but its obvious he has other ideas in mind for this guard. "You're a woman... I'm a man." DO guys think this is appropriate language for a work environment?
We'll see Sister Ingalls again later, as she tries to teach Piper how to knit a blanket and eventually critiques Piper's attempt at public prayer.
Trust me, it was sweet.
Watson comes to the fore again this week. For some reason, she went to the common room for the yoga class... but it was canceled for the day and probably the week. It was weird later when she ran into Yoga Jones decorating the TV room for the holidays and she brought up the canceled class. Weird because when I first saw this ep, I had forgotten these two women have a history.
Remember when Watson got out of the SHU and went crazy one night, exercising in the dorm and keeping all the other ladies in the ghetto awake?
For reasons we don't understand, Yoga Jones appears and tries to calm Watson down. Watson refuses to calm, and tries to goad the older white woman by guessing what crime landed her in jail. She first accuses her of possible pedophilia, but gets no response. Then she correctly guesses that Yoga Jones killed a kid.
POW!!!!
That got a definite response, as the older woman dropped Namaste and instead went Rocky Balboa on Watson's chin, knocking her back.
That was weeks ago and Watson looks uneasy when she comes into the TV room to reconnect a VCR.
Uneasy because the young woman is on a mission... to get Yoga Jones to talk.
Watson started with the canceled yoga classes and laughed when Jones said she was taking a break, "I thought yoga WAS a break."
When Yoga Jones admitted she couldn't concentrate on yoga since she punched Watson, the young woman convinced her to tell the tale of her crime.
Yoga spun it out initially, with plenty of self deprecating comments along the way. Bottom line, she was raising marijuana to pay her rent and her bar bill. Deer kept grazing on her cash crop and she bought a hunting rifle to deal with the problem. One night, while drunk, she shot at a rustling in her premium weed patch.
But it wasn't a deer.
It was an 8 year old boy from a neighboring farm who had just run away because his dad took away his Nintendo. As Yoga tells Watson, "They buried him in a box on their farm." Officer Fischer arrives to put an end to unauthorized socializing during work hours between the "inmates". (Damn that Caputo and his "mentoring") Lucky for Fischer, Yoga Jones wasn't in a punching mood, she was in a cathartic crying mood, "It was a MISTAKE!" and Watson just growled, "We're having a MOMENT here..." which caused our tenderhearted guard to apologize, back down and leave the room as quick as she came.
TBC
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FOOL ME ONCE... continues
Daya and Gloria are eating in the cafeteria. Actually, Gloria is eating while chastising the possibly pregnant one to eat. Pornstache is watching and comes over to whisper sweet nothings in Daya's ear... ABOUT Daya's ears. "Tia" Gloria kicks her under the table to make her participate in the flirtation. That kick was the second best thing about that scene... the first was the formidable redhead watching it with undisguised interest. As Morello gazes out the window while prattling on about mimosas, Red simply says, "I'm going to need you to do something for me." and she had Lorna's COMPLETE attention.
When next we see our sweet Lorna, she's orchestrating a "sting" in the common room. First she alerts Gloria to delay Caputo as he tries to leave, with a wonderful tale about her foot fungus and why she wants him to send Crazy Eyes to the "lite brown" showers since she does such a good job in the ghetto. (This sequence is one of the reasons Gloria has become my fav among the Latinas) She keeps an eye on Lorna who is watching Gina outside the utility closet. Lorna has her stretch out the complaints until the RIGHT moment and then Gloria wraps it up and sends Caputo on to his next prisoner interaction.
Lorna: Mr Caputo, I think I heard someone crying in the utility closet.
Caputo: (sarcastically) Well, we can't have that, can we?
After reminding him the girls were upset after Tricia's death and were at risk of killing themselves after every period, she maneuvers him towards the closet.
Lorna: I'd do it myself but I have such empathy...
Caputo: If I'm not home in my massage chair holding a glass of wild turkey in 25 minutes, I'm holding YOU responsible.
Guess who didn't get home in 25 minutes, and technically it was Pornstache not Morello who was responsible since he was the one having sex with Daya in the closet.
Were those garters he was wearing to keep his socks up/shirt tail down?
ETA : Hmmm, this posted without me hitting the button, is the DOC monitoring me????
Daya and Gloria are eating in the cafeteria. Actually, Gloria is eating while chastising the possibly pregnant one to eat. Pornstache is watching and comes over to whisper sweet nothings in Daya's ear... ABOUT Daya's ears.
"Tia" Gloria kicks her under the table to make her participate in the flirtation. That kick was the second best thing about that scene... the first was the formidable redhead watching it with undisguised interest. As Morello gazes out the window while prattling on about mimosas, Red simply says, "I'm going to need you to do something for me." and she had Lorna's COMPLETE attention.When next we see our sweet Lorna, she's orchestrating a "sting" in the common room. First she alerts Gloria to delay Caputo as he tries to leave, with a wonderful tale about her foot fungus and why she wants him to send Crazy Eyes to the "lite brown" showers since she does such a good job in the ghetto. (This sequence is one of the reasons Gloria has become my fav among the Latinas) She keeps an eye on Lorna who is watching Gina outside the utility closet. Lorna has her stretch out the complaints until the RIGHT moment and then Gloria wraps it up and sends Caputo on to his next prisoner interaction.
Lorna: Mr Caputo, I think I heard someone crying in the utility closet.
Caputo: (sarcastically) Well, we can't have that, can we?
After reminding him the girls were upset after Tricia's death and were at risk of killing themselves after every period, she maneuvers him towards the closet.
Lorna: I'd do it myself but I have such empathy...
Caputo: If I'm not home in my massage chair holding a glass of wild turkey in 25 minutes, I'm holding YOU responsible.
Guess who didn't get home in 25 minutes, and technically it was Pornstache not Morello who was responsible since he was the one having sex with Daya in the closet.
Were those garters he was wearing to keep his socks up/shirt tail down?
ETA : Hmmm, this posted without me hitting the button, is the DOC monitoring me????
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"FOOL ME ONCE"... continues
Its the next day and Assist Warden Natalie Fig? is yelling at Caputo for the newest scandal. After the suicide "2 weeks ago" and the maple syrup "incident" before that (we never did hear what that was about), she predicts CO/Inmate sex in the closet will "kill" the warden.
She also is CLEAR that she doesn't want to see the word "rape" on the report as she predicts this was consensual and probably a scam to get released from the prison with a taxpayer stipend. Fig doesn't even acknowledge Caputo when he reminds her there's no such thing as "consent" in prison/CO sex, as she tells him to suspend Mendez while she works things out with the warden.
The fun thing about this scene was watching Caputo try not to get excited when Fig sat near him, on his desk, (Remember his speech to Fischer... "You're a woman...I'm a man...") and then watching him throw his sharpened pencil at the closed door when she left.
The OTHER fun thing was watching her answer a phone call from a reporter as she makes her way to the parking lot. He'd caught the NPR segment with Larry Bloom and had questions about all the closed programs (The Track, The GED program, switching drugs to generics) given the fact that in the last 5 years... the Feds had actually INCREASED Litchfield's budget by 2.3 MILLION dollars.
Fig looks like she's going to collapse against the side of her Mercedes Benz after she hurriedly ends the call.
The prison let Mendez back in to collect the stuff from his locker. We watch him walk out with the box, looking quite morose. As he's walking by the NEPTUNE'S PRODUCE van, he sees Red monitoring its unloading.
She looks at him.
He looks at her as he walks by.
She winks.
And you can read his mind! "F*CK!"
Fig & Mendez aren't the only ones unhappy with this situation.
Bennett is quite solicitous with Daya when he catches up with her, until he discovers she lured Mendez into having sex to "protect" Bennett's job/freedom when her pregnancy was discovered.
Bennett: (disgusted) Who ARE you?
Uh, the person who told you she'd take care of it, when you whined a couple days ago about losing your job and going to jail?
Talk about disgusted, Bennett wasn't very happy when he met with Mendez in the bar that night. Pornstache has "2" agendas. He wants "Benny" to get a message to the love of his life (?) and he want's to give a "win" to his main man by giving him info on drugs coming into the prison. It seems Mendez has discovered RED is importing / distributing the drugs. Mendez was going to be the hero and bust the operation open... but since he's suspended, he's letting Bennett do the honors.
I wonder what Bennett thinks after Caputo KISSES him for bringing the bag of drugs into his office. "Geez, I've been kissed by more guys here in the last 2 weeks than I was during my 12 months in Afghanistan."
Bennett is sent to find Red.
Guess what, she's NOT in the kitchen.
She's in Healy's office, leaning against his desk like she owns it, as she counsels the married couple sitting before her... Sam Healy and his Russian wife.
I guess it helps that your kitchen is run by a Russian, if you happen to marry a mail order Russian bride.
Howled when she told him to "go get a pedicure".
Nearly cried when Bennett came to collect her and she leaned over Healy to say...
Red: If it goes bad, take care of my girls.
Its the next day and Assist Warden Natalie Fig? is yelling at Caputo for the newest scandal. After the suicide "2 weeks ago" and the maple syrup "incident" before that (we never did hear what that was about), she predicts CO/Inmate sex in the closet will "kill" the warden.
She also is CLEAR that she doesn't want to see the word "rape" on the report as she predicts this was consensual and probably a scam to get released from the prison with a taxpayer stipend. Fig doesn't even acknowledge Caputo when he reminds her there's no such thing as "consent" in prison/CO sex, as she tells him to suspend Mendez while she works things out with the warden.
The fun thing about this scene was watching Caputo try not to get excited when Fig sat near him, on his desk, (Remember his speech to Fischer... "You're a woman...I'm a man...") and then watching him throw his sharpened pencil at the closed door when she left.
The OTHER fun thing was watching her answer a phone call from a reporter as she makes her way to the parking lot. He'd caught the NPR segment with Larry Bloom and had questions about all the closed programs (The Track, The GED program, switching drugs to generics) given the fact that in the last 5 years... the Feds had actually INCREASED Litchfield's budget by 2.3 MILLION dollars.
Fig looks like she's going to collapse against the side of her Mercedes Benz after she hurriedly ends the call.
The prison let Mendez back in to collect the stuff from his locker. We watch him walk out with the box, looking quite morose. As he's walking by the NEPTUNE'S PRODUCE van, he sees Red monitoring its unloading.
She looks at him.
He looks at her as he walks by.
She winks.
And you can read his mind! "F*CK!"
Fig & Mendez aren't the only ones unhappy with this situation.
Bennett is quite solicitous with Daya when he catches up with her, until he discovers she lured Mendez into having sex to "protect" Bennett's job/freedom when her pregnancy was discovered.
Bennett: (disgusted) Who ARE you?
Uh, the person who told you she'd take care of it, when you whined a couple days ago about losing your job and going to jail?
Talk about disgusted, Bennett wasn't very happy when he met with Mendez in the bar that night. Pornstache has "2" agendas. He wants "Benny" to get a message to the love of his life (?) and he want's to give a "win" to his main man by giving him info on drugs coming into the prison. It seems Mendez has discovered RED is importing / distributing the drugs. Mendez was going to be the hero and bust the operation open... but since he's suspended, he's letting Bennett do the honors.
I wonder what Bennett thinks after Caputo KISSES him for bringing the bag of drugs into his office. "Geez, I've been kissed by more guys here in the last 2 weeks than I was during my 12 months in Afghanistan."
Bennett is sent to find Red.
Guess what, she's NOT in the kitchen.
She's in Healy's office, leaning against his desk like she owns it, as she counsels the married couple sitting before her... Sam Healy and his Russian wife.
I guess it helps that your kitchen is run by a Russian, if you happen to marry a mail order Russian bride.
Howled when she told him to "go get a pedicure".
Nearly cried when Bennett came to collect her and she leaned over Healy to say...
Red: If it goes bad, take care of my girls.
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I love this show. I saw it a few weeks ago and mouth just dropped when i saw Kate in it....FUCK ME. I actually said that. My housemates were like "WHAAAAAT?". They were consequently hooked too. Its a great show. As Breaking Bad and True Blood draw to a close will replace my american show need (and Scandal too). I love Red. Is she returning to the show?
She's great, isn't she?
Yes, she's coming back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrghhJAkCk
Not sure if you found this on the previous page, but here's a great interview with Kate about OitNB.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrghhJAkCk[/yt]
Yes, she's coming back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrghhJAkCk
Not sure if you found this on the previous page, but here's a great interview with Kate about OitNB.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrghhJAkCk[/yt]
FOOL ME ONCE... continued
Yoga Jones isn't the only one who had their back story highlighted in this ep. The wonder that is Tiffany "Pennsatucky" Doggett was also up for review.
Before we see her past, however, we see what she's like after 24 (?) hours in Psych. She & Leanne are folding sheets in the laundry (I really like how we see/hear everyone working their jobs this week. Crazy Eyes & Piper mopping, Gina & Red doing working the kitchen or its shipments, the three amigas (not) in the laundry & Morello as the trusty van driver) and "Tucky" is strangely silent. Even when Alex tries to goad her, she doesn't respond, much to Leanne's chagrin.
Leanne: Why ain't you throwing it back at her?
Doggett: Cause there ain't no point, Leanne all right? I got beat. Ain't nobody up there looking out for me no more.
Then TD has some real introspection.
Doggett: You know, it finally come to me, after all this time I've been following HIM. I finally heard HIM talk to me... HIM saying I was "his girl". I was. (Because of her sudden skill at faith healing). Turns out, it wasn't HIM. It was CHAPman, the bitchdevil of Litchfield.
I found it interesting that at this point, Alex intervened NOT to admit it was SHE who started the gaslight gag, but just to extoll Piper's confession that allowed Pennsatucky to get out of Psych at the expense of 2 weeks of sleepless nights scrubbing toilets & floors.
Doggett is not into revenge, but she is into explaining to us her view of religion.
Doggett: Do you know what if means if there ain't no-body up there punishing the evil-doers? It means there's ain't nobody giving out prizes for the good ones neither. Cause there ain't no judge, there ain't no justice. We just crawl around this earth like ants, and then we die.
Which sets up an interesting segue into Tiffany's past.
She's lying naked in bed, smoking with her "significant other". They are having a talk about her current pregnancy. He's trying to point out the advantages of having a baby, first among them are the money from the State & the WIC (Women, Infants & Children) packages. Doggett is being more practical. Her cousin was arrested after the birth of her child and the baby was "taken away" because the illegal drugs found in her system. She was arrested for endangering a minor and Doggett wasn't going to follow suit.
The boyfriend suggested stopping drugs to avoid that outcome... but neither one could hold a straight face at THAT thought!
She tried to get him to bring her to the clinic, but of course he was busy and she had to find a ride elsewhere.
Eventually we see Doggett pulling her own IV out of her arm and begin changing from the johnny gown into her clothes at the clinic. She looks uncomfortable. A nurse? aide? walks into the room to stock it, and makes an unfortunate comment.
Red Shirt Nurse: Number 5, huh? We should give you a punch card. Get the 6th one is free.
Oh honey.
Dogget goes out to a waiting truck (Not the boyfriend) and pulls a shot gun from the rack in the cab. When asked what she was doing, her response was "She disrespected me." and back in she went... walking by the antiabortion protestors with the shotgun. The next thing we see is them reacting to the gun shots.
Nobody "disrespects" Tiffany "Pennsatucky" Doggett.
Yoga Jones isn't the only one who had their back story highlighted in this ep. The wonder that is Tiffany "Pennsatucky" Doggett was also up for review.
Before we see her past, however, we see what she's like after 24 (?) hours in Psych. She & Leanne are folding sheets in the laundry (I really like how we see/hear everyone working their jobs this week. Crazy Eyes & Piper mopping, Gina & Red doing working the kitchen or its shipments, the three amigas (not) in the laundry & Morello as the trusty van driver) and "Tucky" is strangely silent. Even when Alex tries to goad her, she doesn't respond, much to Leanne's chagrin.
Leanne: Why ain't you throwing it back at her?
Doggett: Cause there ain't no point, Leanne all right? I got beat. Ain't nobody up there looking out for me no more.
Then TD has some real introspection.
Doggett: You know, it finally come to me, after all this time I've been following HIM. I finally heard HIM talk to me... HIM saying I was "his girl". I was. (Because of her sudden skill at faith healing). Turns out, it wasn't HIM. It was CHAPman, the bitchdevil of Litchfield.
I found it interesting that at this point, Alex intervened NOT to admit it was SHE who started the gaslight gag, but just to extoll Piper's confession that allowed Pennsatucky to get out of Psych at the expense of 2 weeks of sleepless nights scrubbing toilets & floors.
Doggett is not into revenge, but she is into explaining to us her view of religion.
Doggett: Do you know what if means if there ain't no-body up there punishing the evil-doers? It means there's ain't nobody giving out prizes for the good ones neither. Cause there ain't no judge, there ain't no justice. We just crawl around this earth like ants, and then we die.
Which sets up an interesting segue into Tiffany's past.
She's lying naked in bed, smoking with her "significant other". They are having a talk about her current pregnancy. He's trying to point out the advantages of having a baby, first among them are the money from the State & the WIC (Women, Infants & Children) packages. Doggett is being more practical. Her cousin was arrested after the birth of her child and the baby was "taken away" because the illegal drugs found in her system. She was arrested for endangering a minor and Doggett wasn't going to follow suit.
The boyfriend suggested stopping drugs to avoid that outcome... but neither one could hold a straight face at THAT thought!
She tried to get him to bring her to the clinic, but of course he was busy and she had to find a ride elsewhere.
Eventually we see Doggett pulling her own IV out of her arm and begin changing from the johnny gown into her clothes at the clinic. She looks uncomfortable. A nurse? aide? walks into the room to stock it, and makes an unfortunate comment.
Red Shirt Nurse: Number 5, huh? We should give you a punch card. Get the 6th one is free.
Oh honey.
Dogget goes out to a waiting truck (Not the boyfriend) and pulls a shot gun from the rack in the cab. When asked what she was doing, her response was "She disrespected me." and back in she went... walking by the antiabortion protestors with the shotgun. The next thing we see is them reacting to the gun shots.
Nobody "disrespects" Tiffany "Pennsatucky" Doggett.
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FOOL ME ONCE... continued
One of the things I like about this show is that they DO follow through on storylines.
A couple of months ago, Healy suggested Miss Claudette appeal her sentence.
She said no. "Hope" was too dangerous to contemplate for this woman.
Then she got a letter from Jean Baptiste and changed her mind. We saw her in the law library for several eps, and from past eps we know she & her lawyer filed the appeal. Now she has another 24 hours to wait for a response.
She walks into her cubical one morning and comments that her bunkmate (who's working the night shift cleaning toilets) missed breakfast.
Piper: I needed to sleep more than I needed eggs.
Earlier this morning, Piper finally told Alex about her cell phone call with "the fiancé".
Now Piper finally addresses the radio program with Miss Claudette. (I love how she still calls her "Miss Claudette" even after all these weeks, while Miss C simply calls her "Chapman".) She once again apologizes for the radio program. Miss Claudette "knows" the stories that fellow prisoners whisper about her, she just wished her Bunkie "thought enough of {her} to ask for the truth."
You realize how much this hurt Claudette when she leaves her Bunkie with a cutting remark.
Miss Claudette: Tomorrow is a big day for me, and I won't have you ruin it (by sharing her respiratory virus). That seems to be a talent of yours.
Hmmm.
Piper, via Larry's radio program, ruined Miss Claudette & Suzanne's view of themselves AND not only ruined Doggett's view, Piper had her thrown into Psych. I would have to say that what Miss C said was right. It wasn't kind... but it was right.
The next day finds Miss Claudette in a lighter mood. She shares with Piper that her lawyer feels the judge is leaning their way. Piper sits up and offers Miss Claudette an olive branch, in the form of pink nail polish to brighten her up for this special day.
Miss Claudette: (Looks at the bottle) I don't think that's my color.
Piper: Hold out your hand.
Miss C sighs, then walks over to the standing Piper and holds out her hand. Piper silently takes it and carefully applies the polish to one nail.
One of the important things about this scene, is watching Miss C as she watches Piper.
Piper: Have any big plans if this all works out?
Miss Claudette: There is someone waiting for me. That is plan enough. (Piper looks thoughtful) And, I'm going to eat dinner at dinnertime. At 7 o'clock... like a person.
Piper: (Looks at Miss C... like a person and asks) What do you think?
Miss Claudette: (Looks at her hand) Pretty. (Then Miss C smiles, nods and gives Piper her hand once more, to finish the job. Piper is also smiling. This was certainly easier than chewing jalapeno peppers for Red.)
Later this day... we'll discover what the courts think of Miss Claudette's pink nail polish and her hopeful appeal.
One of the things I like about this show is that they DO follow through on storylines.
A couple of months ago, Healy suggested Miss Claudette appeal her sentence.
She said no. "Hope" was too dangerous to contemplate for this woman.
Then she got a letter from Jean Baptiste and changed her mind. We saw her in the law library for several eps, and from past eps we know she & her lawyer filed the appeal. Now she has another 24 hours to wait for a response.
She walks into her cubical one morning and comments that her bunkmate (who's working the night shift cleaning toilets) missed breakfast.
Piper: I needed to sleep more than I needed eggs.
Earlier this morning, Piper finally told Alex about her cell phone call with "the fiancé".
Now Piper finally addresses the radio program with Miss Claudette. (I love how she still calls her "Miss Claudette" even after all these weeks, while Miss C simply calls her "Chapman".) She once again apologizes for the radio program. Miss Claudette "knows" the stories that fellow prisoners whisper about her, she just wished her Bunkie "thought enough of {her} to ask for the truth."
You realize how much this hurt Claudette when she leaves her Bunkie with a cutting remark.
Miss Claudette: Tomorrow is a big day for me, and I won't have you ruin it (by sharing her respiratory virus). That seems to be a talent of yours.
Hmmm.
Piper, via Larry's radio program, ruined Miss Claudette & Suzanne's view of themselves AND not only ruined Doggett's view, Piper had her thrown into Psych. I would have to say that what Miss C said was right. It wasn't kind... but it was right.
The next day finds Miss Claudette in a lighter mood. She shares with Piper that her lawyer feels the judge is leaning their way. Piper sits up and offers Miss Claudette an olive branch, in the form of pink nail polish to brighten her up for this special day.
Miss Claudette: (Looks at the bottle) I don't think that's my color.
Piper: Hold out your hand.
Miss C sighs, then walks over to the standing Piper and holds out her hand. Piper silently takes it and carefully applies the polish to one nail.
One of the important things about this scene, is watching Miss C as she watches Piper.
Piper: Have any big plans if this all works out?
Miss Claudette: There is someone waiting for me. That is plan enough. (Piper looks thoughtful) And, I'm going to eat dinner at dinnertime. At 7 o'clock... like a person.
Piper: (Looks at Miss C... like a person and asks) What do you think?
Miss Claudette: (Looks at her hand) Pretty. (Then Miss C smiles, nods and gives Piper her hand once more, to finish the job. Piper is also smiling. This was certainly easier than chewing jalapeno peppers for Red.)
Later this day... we'll discover what the courts think of Miss Claudette's pink nail polish and her hopeful appeal.
"Watch" Natasha on the radio. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6N3dM2Uwew
and part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKX67BdOQiA
and part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKX67BdOQiA
The Rules of Prison Life... according to OitNB: 
http://www.vulture.com/2013/07/rules-of-prison-life-orange-is-the-new-black.html
http://www.vulture.com/2013/07/rules-of-prison-life-orange-is-the-new-black.html
FOOL ME ONCE... continued
Just in case you thought that working the night janitorial shift would give Piper a pass from her daytime electrical duties, think again.
Later that day in the kitchen (it must be between meals since no-one is around and the pantry is locked behind wire cage doors) Piper is taking a screw driver to a toaster. All I could think of was "Piper! Remember rule #1. Did you unplug that sucker yet?"
Alex walks in carrying a load of towels, and sees opportunity in the empty kitchen.
Alex: (She sidles over to Piper) Ya wanna fuck in the pantry?
Piper: Heyyy, get out of here. You're gonna get us shot. (Shot=a written reprimand like after the dryer incident)
Alex: I'm serious. (Alex is snuggling up to Piper's back, kissing her neck) I was so afraid about you finding out the truth, but now its out (that she gave Piper up to the Feds) and its okay. (her hands are roaming more than a teenaged boy on a date at a drive-in movie) Its kind of a rush. The cool thing about sex in an industrial kitchen (she's handling Piper the way Pornstache did when he frisked Piper in the electrical shop) is there's a ton of margarine in here.
Piper: (Being ever so polite) Stop it Alex.
But Alex doesn't stop.
Watching Piper in the scene was quite telling. Initially when Alex walked in, it was their usual absent minded banter, nothing overtly titillating and Piper seemed fine. As Alex turned up the fondling and the verbal commentary, Piper's face went from fine to cool to distinctly uncomfortable, but she still didn't try to shut Alex down until the drug dealer FINALLY went too far.
Piper: We're NOT okay! (She finally breaks free from Alex' grasp and steps off 3 paces. Motioning back and forth between them she yells) This Is Not Fine!
Alex: Good. Now we can talk.
Piper is pissed that this was a ruse to get her to talk and Alex further pushes her button by defining "what" they're going to talk about.
Alex: You find out that I personally got you thrown in here at the exact moment your manicured fingers were like closing on the yuppie brass ring... and somehow you DON'T have a problem with it? You are so full of shit!
(And now comes one of the great P/A exchanges of the series, one celebrated in thousands, well, hundreds, well at LEAST four score and several more fan-made vids.)
Piper: (Punch blocks Alex in the chest throwing her back 2 feet) FUCK YOU!
(She punch blocks her back another 2 feet)
Piper: FUCK YOU ALEX!
(She's now backing Alex up until she traps her against the pantry's cage door)
Piper: (This is as mad as we've ever seen our dear WASP .... so far) You want to see me angry? Well GUESS WHAT! I'm really FUCKING ANGRY, because I love you Alex. I love you, and I Fucking HATE YOU! I've been really trying to keep my shit together but if you really need to see me Hulk out over this... (and she pushes Alex back one more time into the cage door before turning around to stalk away)
(Alex is smiling, because she knows she guessed right about Piper's motives during their early morning bathroom tete e tete.)
Alex: Larry left you, didn't he? (Piper stops and turns around) And that's why you're... "fake fine" with me.
I love Alex's interpretation of Piper's motives, love them because this is yet another example of everything Alex is accusing Piper of doing/feeling could also be laid at Alex's own door step since Piper left 8 years ago.
Alex: Right now you're willing to overlook pretty much anything because ultimately you are just terrified of being alone... (Now the formerly spurned lover gets a little righteous in her indignation) Is that all I am to you? (She marches up to get in Piper's face) A fucking binky to suck on, until you feel better?!
Piper's not answering.
Piper's not even looking in her direction.
Alex: Look at me.
Piper slowly turns to face her nemesis. Gritting her teeth she asks the one question she's needed answered.
Piper: Why did you do it?
Remember that video where Alex denied ratting her out in episode 3? Well, replay it in your mind and substitute "yes" for all the no's.
Yes, Alex gave up Piper because the Feds were offering less time, "significantly" less. Alex figured she might as well rat out Piper before one of her associates did (they all traveled together). ANYWAY, Piper was no longer real to Alex since the two hadn't seen heard from each other in EIGHT years (Hey! Is that a continuity error or a hint. Piper told Alex in ep 3's yelling match that she hadn't seen Alex in FIVE years!!!) and truth be finally told, after 8 years the vindictive Alex was still upset over the way Piper walked out on their relationship, walked out when Alex the woman (not the drug dealer) needed her the most, at the time of her mother's death.
Piper might have bought Alex' act, and told her so... IF Alex hadn't lied, if Alex had simply delivered this speech months ago when Piper first arrived.
Alex: I wanted you to like me. I still do. (Why Alex? Is Piper YOUR binky?)
Piper: Maybe you should have thought that all the way through.
And Piper walks away.
Here's to hoping she didn't leave her screwdriver behind with the broken toaster.
Just in case you thought that working the night janitorial shift would give Piper a pass from her daytime electrical duties, think again.
Later that day in the kitchen (it must be between meals since no-one is around and the pantry is locked behind wire cage doors) Piper is taking a screw driver to a toaster. All I could think of was "Piper! Remember rule #1. Did you unplug that sucker yet?"
Alex walks in carrying a load of towels, and sees opportunity in the empty kitchen.
Alex: (She sidles over to Piper) Ya wanna fuck in the pantry?
Piper: Heyyy, get out of here. You're gonna get us shot. (Shot=a written reprimand like after the dryer incident)
Alex: I'm serious. (Alex is snuggling up to Piper's back, kissing her neck) I was so afraid about you finding out the truth, but now its out (that she gave Piper up to the Feds) and its okay. (her hands are roaming more than a teenaged boy on a date at a drive-in movie) Its kind of a rush. The cool thing about sex in an industrial kitchen (she's handling Piper the way Pornstache did when he frisked Piper in the electrical shop) is there's a ton of margarine in here.
Piper: (Being ever so polite) Stop it Alex.
But Alex doesn't stop.
Watching Piper in the scene was quite telling. Initially when Alex walked in, it was their usual absent minded banter, nothing overtly titillating and Piper seemed fine. As Alex turned up the fondling and the verbal commentary, Piper's face went from fine to cool to distinctly uncomfortable, but she still didn't try to shut Alex down until the drug dealer FINALLY went too far.
Piper: We're NOT okay! (She finally breaks free from Alex' grasp and steps off 3 paces. Motioning back and forth between them she yells) This Is Not Fine!
Alex: Good. Now we can talk.
Piper is pissed that this was a ruse to get her to talk and Alex further pushes her button by defining "what" they're going to talk about.
Alex: You find out that I personally got you thrown in here at the exact moment your manicured fingers were like closing on the yuppie brass ring... and somehow you DON'T have a problem with it? You are so full of shit!
(And now comes one of the great P/A exchanges of the series, one celebrated in thousands, well, hundreds, well at LEAST four score and several more fan-made vids.)
Piper: (Punch blocks Alex in the chest throwing her back 2 feet) FUCK YOU!
(She punch blocks her back another 2 feet)
Piper: FUCK YOU ALEX!
(She's now backing Alex up until she traps her against the pantry's cage door)
Piper: (This is as mad as we've ever seen our dear WASP .... so far) You want to see me angry? Well GUESS WHAT! I'm really FUCKING ANGRY, because I love you Alex. I love you, and I Fucking HATE YOU! I've been really trying to keep my shit together but if you really need to see me Hulk out over this... (and she pushes Alex back one more time into the cage door before turning around to stalk away)
(Alex is smiling, because she knows she guessed right about Piper's motives during their early morning bathroom tete e tete.)
Alex: Larry left you, didn't he? (Piper stops and turns around) And that's why you're... "fake fine" with me.
I love Alex's interpretation of Piper's motives, love them because this is yet another example of everything Alex is accusing Piper of doing/feeling could also be laid at Alex's own door step since Piper left 8 years ago.
Alex: Right now you're willing to overlook pretty much anything because ultimately you are just terrified of being alone... (Now the formerly spurned lover gets a little righteous in her indignation) Is that all I am to you? (She marches up to get in Piper's face) A fucking binky to suck on, until you feel better?!
Piper's not answering.
Piper's not even looking in her direction.
Alex: Look at me.
Piper slowly turns to face her nemesis. Gritting her teeth she asks the one question she's needed answered.
Piper: Why did you do it?
Remember that video where Alex denied ratting her out in episode 3? Well, replay it in your mind and substitute "yes" for all the no's.
Yes, Alex gave up Piper because the Feds were offering less time, "significantly" less. Alex figured she might as well rat out Piper before one of her associates did (they all traveled together). ANYWAY, Piper was no longer real to Alex since the two hadn't seen heard from each other in EIGHT years (Hey! Is that a continuity error or a hint. Piper told Alex in ep 3's yelling match that she hadn't seen Alex in FIVE years!!!) and truth be finally told, after 8 years the vindictive Alex was still upset over the way Piper walked out on their relationship, walked out when Alex the woman (not the drug dealer) needed her the most, at the time of her mother's death.
Piper might have bought Alex' act, and told her so... IF Alex hadn't lied, if Alex had simply delivered this speech months ago when Piper first arrived.
Alex: I wanted you to like me. I still do. (Why Alex? Is Piper YOUR binky?)
Piper: Maybe you should have thought that all the way through.
And Piper walks away.
Here's to hoping she didn't leave her screwdriver behind with the broken toaster.
Some of the many Piper Alex vids that reference this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUAxRkj4ow
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUAxRkj4ow[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPlBqRHlcU
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPlBqRHlcU[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iIaoOTAk44
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iIaoOTAk44[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKMNHN5_R4
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKMNHN5_R4[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCXWHxe1NQ
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCXWHxe1NQ[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUAxRkj4ow
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUAxRkj4ow[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPlBqRHlcU
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPlBqRHlcU[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iIaoOTAk44
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iIaoOTAk44[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKMNHN5_R4
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKMNHN5_R4[/yt]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCXWHxe1NQ
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCXWHxe1NQ[/yt]
JRulez I apologize if you've already posted about this but I saw it on tumblr..
These are the same shoes that the Russian mafia queen bitch was wearing, Red had gone out and bought them to fit in and she is checking them out very pleased with herself..
Aww..
Suddenly I want to be her friend.
These are the same shoes that the Russian mafia queen bitch was wearing, Red had gone out and bought them to fit in and she is checking them out very pleased with herself..
Aww..
Suddenly I want to be her friend.
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