I didn't know that digital copies expired!!!

[OsmiumJohnnycake]

Kinda reminds me of DIVX (not the codec). But there the entire package was just for show. IIRC the packages resembled DVD cases. At least that concept bombed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Don't know about you but my digital copies seem to work with any computer authorized by my iTunes account.

My experience is only with the digital downloads that "come with" a DVD or BD, like STXI, which only worked on one computer and now doesn't work at all.

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As are mine, I have a couple of Disney DVDs that came with Digital Copies on separate discs. All I have to do is copy them from one computer to another and as long as the computer is authorized by my iTunes account it plays. I can even put them on multiple iPods. Perhaps your trying to copy them from the discs which are a one time affair? There's no law against backing up your Digital Copy, that includes to another computer.

I copied the .wmv file, which had already been "unlocked" with the serial #, to my laptop.

It wanted the serial # again, which of course it wouldn't accept as it had already been used for the file on my desktop.

Then recently, the STXI digital copy on the desktop would no longer work, which I assume is the expiration issue.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

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Luckily I just made a 14GB HD .avi from the BD I just bought, which is light years better looking than their damn digital copy.

That's probably because the file is at least 10 times larger. But frankly, I couldn't give a damn about digital copies. I don't want to watch movies on a tiny screen.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I don't watch as much as I get screencaps and short clips from the finished product.

And occasionally, at work, I watch something on my computer there since I work at night

 

[Kirby]

Hmmm, I downloaded the free digital version of STXI from my DVD set on the day that it was released and it's still on my iPod (I just checked). I've probably watched it 5 times with no problem.

 

[RoJoHen]

Hmmm, I downloaded the free digital version of STXI from my DVD set on the day that it was released and it's still on my iPod (I just checked). I've probably watched it 5 times with no problem.

And you won't have a problem. The copy itself doesn't expire. Your ability to download it is what expires.

 

[Arrqh]

But if you already bought the movie then even if you do get "caught" you own the lisence of the movie anyways, it's just no longer on a disc.

The license doesn't allow you to do that. It lets you watch the movie from that disc and nowhere else.

As was explained in the Disney thread... not being able to copy a DVD has nothing to do with a license. It has to do with the copy protection. Being able to make a copy of purchased media for personal use is covered under fair use laws and no license can ever take that way. However, the DMCA makes the act of bypassing any form of digital copy protection illegal and therefore has effectively countermanded the long standing right of fair use for the time being.

 

[Snaploud]

I avoid itunes whenever possible. I hate the way they run their digital management. They should move more towards a kindle-like model (where you can easily delete approved devices and easily re-download an item to multiple approved devices even after your computer files are destroyed).

 

[Amaris]

But if you already bought the movie then even if you do get "caught" you own the lisence of the movie anyways, it's just no longer on a disc.

The license doesn't allow you to do that. It lets you watch the movie from that disc and nowhere else.

As was explained in the Disney thread... not being able to copy a DVD has nothing to do with a license. It has to do with the copy protection. Being able to make a copy of purchased media for personal use is covered under fair use laws and no license can ever take that way. However, the DMCA makes the act of bypassing any form of digital copy protection illegal and therefore has effectively countermanded the long standing right of fair use for the time being.

I hate the spiteful mockery of it all, too.

1] You have purchased the right to eat your donut.
2] Should you drop your donut, you have the right to grab an exact duplicate of it that is sitting on this table.
3] Simply reach across the white line to get your copy donut.
4] Crossing the white line is illegal.
5] Enjoy your donut.

 

[A beaker full of death]

But frankly, I couldn't give a damn about digital copies. I don't want to watch movies on a tiny screen.

So... buy a bigger screen?

Seriously. A computer is the main component in my home entertainment system. Who needs special set-top boxes or a separate disc player when it's already all-in-one and connected to my 47" tv?

 

[RoJoHen]

Indeed. There is no rule saying that digital copies need to be played on your iPhone.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Why would I want to watch a digital copy on my TV or computer when I can watch the damn Blu-ray with which it came "free"?

 

[RoJoHen]

I dunno. I've personally never used the digitial copies I own. I'm just saying you can watch them on larger devices.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I suspect that there's some legal clause lurking that doesn't even allow you to give away the digital copy, never mind sell it. The same goes for any DVD version that accompanies a Blu-ray.

 

[RoJoHen]

One day movie players will scan the room, count the number of eyes watching the TV, and charge accordingly.

 

[Arrqh]

I suspect that there's some legal clause lurking that doesn't even allow you to give away the digital copy, never mind sell it. The same goes for any DVD version that accompanies a Blu-ray.

The First-sale doctrine would most likely protect that, at least the DVD portion.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I suspect that there's some legal clause lurking that doesn't even allow you to give away the digital copy, never mind sell it. The same goes for any DVD version that accompanies a Blu-ray.

The First-sale doctrine would most likely protect that, at least the DVD portion.

Not in the UK, it wouldn't. The EC have imposed "droite de suite" (directive 2001/84/EC) on us. Of course, no one seems takes a blind bit of notice with regard to goods such as DVDs and CDs - I believe it's only enforced for only works of art sold at auction as yet.

ETA: Just checked and it doesn't apply. The directive states "An original work of art means works of graphic or plastic art such as pictures, collages, paintings, drawings, engravings, prints, lithographs, sculptures, tapestries, ceramics, glassware and photographs, provided they are made by the artist himself or are copies considered to be original works of art."

As DVDs and CDs are copies of the original work, the artist is assumed to obtain a royalty with each copy sold, and so droite de suite does not apply. In any case, droit de suite is not payable on re-sales of less than €3,000.

However, I don't know what insidious clauses are inserted in the fine print to stop you selling or giving away digital copies.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

One day movie players will scan the room, count the number of eyes watching the TV, and charge accordingly.

And someday movie theaters will wipe your memory of any visual or auditory record of the movie you've just seen, leaving you with only a vague impression and a strong urge to recommend it to your friends and family.

 

[Snaploud]

One day movie players will scan the room, count the number of eyes watching the TV, and charge accordingly.

And someday movie theaters will wipe your memory of any visual or auditory record of the movie you've just seen, leaving you with only a vague impression and a strong urge to recommend it to your friends and family.

Wait, that doesn't happen already...?

 

[Corran Horn]

Damn, I have to go through and actually 'activate' a bunch of mine in that case. I've only bothered doing a few of them.