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Earth as Naked Paradise

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In Gene Roddenberry's original treatment of Star Trek, he envisioned Earth as a nudist paradise at the seat of the Federation. When the studios nixed this idea with extreme prejudice for practicality and taste reasons, the idea was dropped. Since Discovery won't be airing on regular TV, and in fact is paygated behind a subscription service, do you think the networks might explore the possibility of reintroducing this concept?

I personally am not interested in seeing casual Ferengi dong in every Earth scene, but your mileage may vary.
 
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I much prefer the contemporary version of Earth as seen in Into Darkness... not that Discovery would likely be able to afford to depict busy streets or much more than a cityscape outside a window.
 
This is probably simplifying things, but it wasn't a nudist paradise, people were just not obsessed with old social norms and modesty. Bald people were ok, skants were ok, breasts were ok, etc.

I generally feel humans will get to that point though will probably not take the path Gene thought it would.

Edit: I forgot to mention a lot of the more thoughtful scifi of the late 60s and early 70s had the perception that modern permissiveness would logically lead to such a world. In one case: Logan's Run, took place in a dystopia, though they were led to believe it was a utopia.

Lots of Gene's thought process was developed post-tos in this period surrounded by a lot of like-minded futurists.
 
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RAMA said:
This is probably simplifying things, but it wasn't a nudist paradise, people were just not obsessed with old social norms and modesty. Bald people were ok, skants were ok, breasts were ok, etc.

I generally feel humans will get to that point though will probably not take the path Gene thought it would.
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Even in this day and age there are a number of countries which don't blink an eye at public nudity (maybe a little pun intended) in the context of swimming pools, spas, etc. More than just providing modesty, clothes serve practical purposes of protection against the elements, and as a form of self expression that I don't see there ever being a reason to not wear them en masse in an everyday public situation.
 
True, Gene was responding to American puritanical thought more than anything else.

MadeIndescribable said:
Even in this day and age there are a number of countries which don't blink an eye at public nudity (maybe a little pun intended) in the context of swimming pools, spas, etc. More than just providing modesty, clothes serve practical purposes of protection against the elements, and as a form of self expression that I don't see there ever being a reason to not wear them en masse in an everyday public situation.
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I remember watching a promotional show about Voyager when it was just starting off and one of the B's (Berman/Braga) being asked about what sort of Trek they'd like to see in the future, to which he replied "Naked Star Trek". So this (probably quite literal) fanwank idea isn't a new one.

If a character being naked is relevant to the scene then fine, but don't have it just for titillation (no more decon rubdowns, please!).
 
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I remember watching a promotional show about Voyager when it was just starting off and one of the B's (Berman/Braga) being asked about what sort of Trek they'd like to see in the future, to which he replied "Naked Star Trek".
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Pretty sure it was Braga who talked about the (admittedly fanmade) Klingon condom in one of the Trekkies documentaries....
 
Obviously, gene's vision isn't ready for prime time, but considering I just saw a perfectly acceptable hacking to pieces with gallons of blood everywhere on TV, give me peaceful naked people anytime.

Bry_Sinclair said:
I remember watching a promotional show about Voyager when it was just starting off and one of the B's (Berman/Braga) being asked about what sort of Trek they'd like to see in the future, to which he replied "Naked Star Trek". So this (probably quite literal) fanwank idea isn't a new one.

If a character being naked is relevant to the scene then fine, but don't have it just for titillation (no more decon rubdowns, please!).
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It was "Inside the New Adventure: Star Trek: Voyager". Robert Picardo hosted it.
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Never saw that as it didn't make it across the Atlantic, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was Braga rather than Berman you were referring to. He seems to like his regular discussion topics...
 
I wouldn't watch it and it has nothing to do with puritanical ideals or religion. If there happens to be a nude scene in a show or movie I'm watching I don't go ballistic but I just happen to think people look better wearing clothes.
But in case you are wondering, I don't like graphic violence either.
 
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