Did you like the way Kurn's arc ended
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I didn't mind the resolution, but I really don't know why Ron Moore "killed" Kurn off. It would have been cool to see him during the war.
Well it was a good idea to put Kurn away...but yeah he should have came back when Worf was repatriated. What an ignoble end to an exciting character like Kurn. He got my attention from the moment I saw him on TNG.
I totally agree with how Photon stated it in the OP.
Not the ending we want, and DS9 having the fortitude to do things like that is what makes DS9 great.
However, I have big problems with how the ending was just "tacked on" in the last few minutes without being developed in a realistic way.
First of all, there is no way Bashir would agree to do that.
Second of all, there is no honor in removing someone's memory. Worf should have had to struggle with himself before "agreeing with himself" to use that solution.
If they were gonna do an ending like that, they needed to make it a two-parter so they have enough screen-time to develop towards that conlusion instead of quickly tacking it on in a way that doesn't hold up to any sort of reasonable scrutiny.
Something like another episode of Worf having to search the galaxy for a shady back alley doctor would would do the memory wipe amidst debates from other DS9 crew members about the issue. Or Bashir having to be coerced into doing the procedure based on a really dirty secret of his that Worf would reveal otherwise. Obviously, one that is even worse than his genetic enhancement secret.
Not the ending we want, and DS9 having the fortitude to do things like that is what makes DS9 great.
However, I have big problems with how the ending was just "tacked on" in the last few minutes without being developed in a realistic way.
First of all, there is no way Bashir would agree to do that.
Second of all, there is no honor in removing someone's memory. Worf should have had to struggle with himself before "agreeing with himself" to use that solution.
If they were gonna do an ending like that, they needed to make it a two-parter so they have enough screen-time to develop towards that conlusion instead of quickly tacking it on in a way that doesn't hold up to any sort of reasonable scrutiny.
Something like another episode of Worf having to search the galaxy for a shady back alley doctor would would do the memory wipe amidst debates from other DS9 crew members about the issue. Or Bashir having to be coerced into doing the procedure based on a really dirty secret of his that Worf would reveal otherwise. Obviously, one that is even worse than his genetic enhancement secret.
I agree. Sisko and Worf should have gotten a plan to help the Feds and Kurn. Find him a small BoP, send him into Dominion space. Find a K-white facility or Jem birthing place, decloak and blow it to smithereens. Of course, it may start a war but WTH, as long as he gets to Klingon heaven-its all that matters.
You could always say that he was a renegade, acting by himself.
You could always say that he was a renegade, acting by himself.
I thought that for all of Worf's pronouncements about honour through the show and trying to be the ideal Klingon, what he did just seemed wrong somehow. I can't see how inducing amnesia in someone would be more honourable than basically having to own up and give his brother an honourable way out.
At least Kurn (in his new identity) was well used (all things considered) in the IKS Gorkon novels.
At least Kurn (in his new identity) was well used (all things considered) in the IKS Gorkon novels.
No. A "human" solution forced on a Klingon without Kurn's consent! There was no "honor" in dying in the memories of one's own mind. 
In the Companion, Moore says he figured that if Kurn hadn't had his memory wiped, he would have committed suicide and gone to Klingon hell. Worf gave his brother another chance at life, in a fantastic and emotional episode.
Exactly. In B5, a memory wipe was what the did to serial killers.
I'd have liked to have seen Kurn go out in a blaze of glory somehow, myself.
MeanJoePhaser
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No, the episode sucked. Worf should've gone through with the ritual, and gotten away with it on record, even if the rest of the crew would detest his actions.
Or maybe have Kurn challenge Gowron and lose.
Or force Worf to kill him, like the Klingon in TNG's "Heart of Glory".
Kurn is still dishonored, isn't he? And still going to Klingon hell for that, dying in battle or not. Isn't Repatriated Worf technically part of the House of Martok now? If the house of Mogh is restored and Kurn didn't die during the time his house was dishonored, he might not go to the dishonored realm. Even if Kurn was recognized as part of his new house, he didn't join voluntarily. AND FEK'LAR KNOWS! HE KNOWS!!!
Or maybe have Kurn challenge Gowron and lose.
Or force Worf to kill him, like the Klingon in TNG's "Heart of Glory".
Kurn is still dishonored, isn't he? And still going to Klingon hell for that, dying in battle or not. Isn't Repatriated Worf technically part of the House of Martok now? If the house of Mogh is restored and Kurn didn't die during the time his house was dishonored, he might not go to the dishonored realm. Even if Kurn was recognized as part of his new house, he didn't join voluntarily. AND FEK'LAR KNOWS! HE KNOWS!!!
Definitily. Suicide by any means is still dishonorable. Better he start a new life in a honorable house.
It would have more satisfying to see a leap of enlightenment with Kurn making peace with the situation and deciding that the shame was unjust. He should live on.
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