D or E?
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How could you not love the Galaxy class?
Beautiful shots.
I honestly prefer the Enterprise-D, the Enterprise-E looks like they mashed the Constitution refit and Excelsior class together. This just comes back to the bridge debate in another thread. The Enterprise-D was destroyed because someone wanted too put their stamp on Star Trek. Not because she couldn't hold up on the big screen, because she looked fantastic.
I honestly prefer the Enterprise-D, the Enterprise-E looks like they mashed the Constitution refit and Excelsior class together. This just comes back to the bridge debate in another thread. The Enterprise-D was destroyed because someone wanted too put their stamp on Star Trek. Not because she couldn't hold up on the big screen, because she looked fantastic.
Hell no. The Enterprise-E added nothing at all that the Enterprise-D (sets) didn't already have. Fans were already familiar with the ship, sets and interiors were established. Converting the sets for the "big screen" was easy enough, considering they recycled wholesale the entire Voyager sickbay.
It would have worked just fine in First Contact, with the added dramatic component that we know exactly what the ship looked like BEFORE it was Borgified and that, in this case, Picard and crew are watching the ship that has been their home for nine years being occupied by a hostile force, and we can see Picard's "I won't loose my ship to the damn Borg!" to be him refusing to give up the home ground (I mean, really... in a new ship you just got three months ago... who cares?).
I was kind of happy with the WAY Enterprise went out, but it was such a crappy blow that I would have been even happier if Picard had the foresight to get out of the Nexus and GO BACK TO HIS FREAKING SHIP and then nail Soran from orbit instead of pulling the supreme brain fart of trying to play action hero with his time-displaced drinking buddy.
That's part of my argument, too.
I thought so too. The one thing I couldn't figure out if they actually blew it up was how to get them home.
^Take the saucer section, crank it up to .99999999c at 25g of acceleration, and Picard and crew can meet the Enterprise-E a bit more than three hundred light years from Earth, after a subjective three-and-a-half-month comfort cruise. 
You know, that might be all it needed - a saucer seperation. The crew leaves the ship in the saucer while Picard faces down Data and the Queen in the engineering section. The movie goes more or less the same way, except Picard and Data escape via lifeboat, letting the auto-destruct run its course and destroy the Queen and the other Borg. The saucer picks up Picard. The Vulcans have their first contact with humanity. The auxiliary deflector on the saucer is sufficient to re-open the portal, and the crew go home in it.
Shades of the original proposed ending of 'TMP.'
Shades of the original proposed ending of 'TMP.'
I honestly never liked the Galaxy class--it looks top-heavy and ungainly to me. I prefer the Sovereign class, but my absolute favorite class of ship is the Excelsior class (I just wish they hadn't put that stupid snow-plow thing on the Enterprise-B).
The Excelsior is, to me, perfect. I love the exterior, the interiors, the computer displays, and even the "monster-maroon" uniforms they wore on the Excelsior.
The Excelsior is, to me, perfect. I love the exterior, the interiors, the computer displays, and even the "monster-maroon" uniforms they wore on the Excelsior.
I agree about the Excelsior. She's long been my favorite. I know there are a lot who dislike her, but to me she's the perfect balance of, well, everything.
I do actually. I thought that "Generations" felt like a transition between the Classic Trek movies and the Next Generation, but also between the Next Generation series and the film series - and the destruction of the Enterprise D brought a kind of closure to those stories. Poetic really.
Plus I never liked the design of the Enterprise D. I prefer the E.
I absolutely hated losing the Enterprise-D in Generations. I thought it was such a cop out just to get a new ship for the TNG movies. I'd rather that the Enterprise-D had been badly damaged--perhaps even losing a warp nacelle--and then be rebuilt and redesigned for First Contact. Ignoring the alternate three-nacelled version of the Enterprise-D in "All Good Things...", I was always of the opinion that the Galaxy-class was a design that would evolve over time...
I think what happened with the E-D and the E-E is exactly what the pruducers of TSFS and TVH thought would happen if they transferred the TOS crew from the recently destroyed Enterprise to Excelsior. Though some might have seen it as cool, by and large there is an affinity for the original ship. The E-E just didn't feel like TNG anymore, and that reason alone I would have liked the E-D back in some incarnation rather than the E-E.
And I'm not saying I don't like E-E. I love the design.
And I'm not saying I don't like E-E. I love the design.
Now that I think about it...wasn't there an old photo or two floating around the 'net years ago that showed the big Enterprise-D shooting model sitting in a storage crate with the "NCC-1701-E" registry once production on Generations wrapped?
I've never thought about it like that before, but you're exactly right!!! It really didn't feel like TNG anymore, and frankly I think that was a contributing factor to why the follow up films were so different.
And I don't dislike the E either (I actually quite like it - specifically the FC version with the 'Nemesis' nacelle pylons but none of those other 'modifications') but it's the principle of the thing.
Now that I think about it...wasn't there an old photo or two floating around the 'net years ago that showed the big Enterprise-D shooting model sitting in a storage crate with the "NCC-1701-E" registry once production on Generations wrapped?
Yes. *sigh* I think that might have actually offended me more. Apparently, ILM just assumed they were going to replace it with a new ship of the same type, like they did before in TVH.
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