Create a Series Finale!

[valkyrie013]

If I was in charge, when i found out that the series was ending prematurely, I would have ended the series on a cliffhanger!
(Something like Farscape did, but that was unintentional)
Have them play out the Kobyashi Maru scenerio with the Romulans. There defeated, but the ship is left damaged and adrift, Hoshi sending a warning back to Earth, and the War starting.. The End!

Kind of force them to make another season, or Tv movie to finish it. Fans would have demanded it!

 

[Tribble Threat]

That Kobayashi Maru book must have been pretty good, if every poster wishes a 2005 episode referenced a 2008 book. What was it like?

 

[Tim Thomason]

That Kobayashi Maru book must have been pretty good, if every poster wishes a 2005 episode referenced a 2008 book. What was it like?

The Kobayashi Maru comes from Star Trek II. The 2008 book and the early posts in this thread are probably just independently referencing the movie, not the book.

The movie was good. Star Trek II is definitely in my top five of Star Trek films.

 

[Tribble Threat]

But the mo

The Kobayashi Maru comes from Star Trek II. The 2008 book and the early posts in this thread are probably just independently referencing the movie, not the book.

The movie was good. Star Trek II is definitely in my top five of Star Trek films.

True, it was mentioned in Star Trek II. But the movie never specified anything about the Kobayashi Maru being from the Romulan Wars, or any time in the 22nd century, or even whether it was a "real" ship. All that came in 2008, when a Pocket ENT novel named Kobayashi Maru was published.

 

[Tim Thomason]

True, it was mentioned in Star Trek II. But the movie never specified anything about the Kobayashi Maru being from the Romulan Wars, or any time in the 22nd century, or even whether it was a "real" ship. All that came in 2008, when a Pocket ENT novel named Kobayashi Maru was published.

Yeah, and the guy referencing the ECS Kobayashi Maru is probably talking about the book. But even when Enterprise was airing, people were wondering when the Kobayashi Maru was going to show up. It's a side effect of being a prequel with the Kobayashi Maru scenario as an interesting thing that may have occurred in the unknown past.

 

[F. King Daniel]

That Kobayashi Maru book must have been pretty good, if every poster wishes a 2005 episode referenced a 2008 book. What was it like?

I thought the novel was awful, and didn't fit with what the TV show had established (the Kobayashi Maru of the novel is an old repurposed Klingon ship, which doesn't mesh with ENT's Klingon first contact in "Broken Bow"). But the idea of Enterprise NX-01 living the "real" events which inspired the training simulation seen in Wrath of Khan and later 2009 Star Trek is a very cool one. It ties ENT into the larger continuity in a big way. The Kobayashi Maru test is referred to throughout Trek, imagine if it was retroactively made an ENT reference!

 

[DarKush]

I thought the novel was awful, and didn't fit with what the TV show had established (the Kobayashi Maru of the novel is an old repurposed Klingon ship, which doesn't mesh with ENT's Klingon first contact in "Broken Bow"). But the idea of Enterprise NX-01 living the "real" events which inspired the training simulation seen in Wrath of Khan and later 2009 Star Trek is a very cool one. It ties ENT into the larger continuity in a big way. The Kobayashi Maru test is referred to throughout Trek, imagine if it was retroactively made an ENT reference!

I'm not going to say the novel was awful but I also wasn't a fan of it. I really liked The Good that Men do, but after that I thought they were just contorting themselves to keep Trip part of the stories. TGTMD was a nice rejoinder to TATV, one that felt very necessary at the time, but now, looking back, I wish they had just found a way to write Trip out of the story after that, or perhaps have given him a better death.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

I'm just wondering if anyone knew how many minutes of TATV are taken up by the Riker storyline?

If all that was cut and the story was kept as the 10 year jump/NX-01 decommissioning/beginnings of the UFP then it might be salvageable if turned into a full ENT crew plot.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

After slicing out Riker and Troi, you could use the extra screen time to overhaul Trip's suicide, since it's so OOC. Do something to make it a good death, not a stupid one. As a matter of fact, fix all the OOC characters. and ditch that dopey scene in the shuttlecraft where Trip and T'Pol talk about breaking up five minutes after their baby died. Or hey, skip the ol' cliché "Favorite Main Character Gets Offed In The Finale" and have Trip & T'Pol alive and well and bonded and being trailblazers for human/Vulcan relations. (Skip the goofy Trip Romulan spy thing.) And while you're at it, dump the "Six Years Have Passed" since it looks stupid that no one got promoted after winning the Xindi War. And maybe talk about how Enterprise helped to win the Romulan War to boot. And instead of decommissioning the ship, have her relaunching after getting a refit. And Archer becomes President, and Trip perfects the Warp Seven engine, and Phlox helps Trip and T'Pol to have a baby, and Shran earns another Andorian command after serving honorably on Enterprise and not becoming a jewel smuggler...

Just for starters.

 

[valkyrie013]

Some of the book stuff is good, but most is not that great, there Idea on why it was an Earth Only war was.. well crap..
And the whole war was 2 books and severly shoe horned in to it.. Should have been a 5-10 book series.

 

[Oddish]

And while you're at it, dump the "Six Years Have Passed" since it looks stupid that no one got promoted after winning the Xindi War.

This. And they didn't age, or change their hair, or grow beards (maybe if Trip had grown a beard, the series would have been saved by Riker Beard Mojo). My head canon is that the Enterprise's holodeck was using 220-year-old footage, and it wasn't accurate: it had 2155 imagery instead of 2161, including lower ranks. Hoshi and Mayweather had been promoted long before.

Given his space expertise and his unfailing competence (did he EVER make a mistake in the entire four years?), Travis should have been a lieutenant by Year 3 anyway. And Hoshi before series' end. 10 years was ludicrous, even if you assume that there were no "half-pip" ranks in Starfleet at the time.

 

[Tribble Threat]

I'm just wondering if anyone knew how many minutes of TATV are taken up by the Riker storyline?

If all that was cut and the story was kept as the 10 year jump/NX-01 decommissioning/beginnings of the UFP then it might be salvageable if turned into a full ENT crew plot.

Maybe you can add footage from another bad episode and make a good one.

This. And they didn't age, or change their hair, or grow beards (maybe if Trip had grown a beard, the series would have been saved by Riker Beard Mojo).

One could add footage from the episode where Archer has amnesia. Its continuity was erased anyway. But I can understand if you don't want to cut up a good episode to make another one good.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

My head canon is that the Enterprise's holodeck was using 220-year-old footage, and it wasn't accurate: it had 2155 imagery instead of 2161, including lower ranks. Hoshi and Mayweather had been promoted long before.

And of course we all know that Barclay got drunk and reprogrammed the holodeck program to mess with Riker.

 

[Oddish]

And of course we all know that Barclay got drunk and reprogrammed the holodeck program to mess with Riker.

Seems a bit subtle for the guy who turned the senior staff into characters in his Three Musketeers game. But who knows?

At least it wasn't Tom Paris. He'd probably have had T'Pol turn into a cow when Riker tried to kiss her.