for the T.V. show that would have been nice way to end, after all the show had nothing to do with the comic
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for the T.V. show that would have been nice way to end, after all the show had nothing to do with the comic
Rosalind Chao appeared as a secretary working for DB's tragic 2nd wife, and also as Peter Parker's love interest in the last eps of the short-lived Spidey 70's live-action.
For a kick, I once 'resolved' the fates of the TV MU characters in a Quantum Leap/TV-Hulk fic. Basically, the MU as we know it never panned out. Doctor Strange died permanently sealing away that Old One/Dormammu thing from his movie, and it was really the only threat of that type in their reality. Captain America gave his life stopping the Beirut Barracks Bombing in the early 80's. Thor and Blake completed whatever they had to, and parted. Matt Murdock found the evidence to jail Fisk. Since the Spidey series had no girlfriend (Betty was there, but not in that way), I had Parker marry Rosalind Chao's character, making her the wife of Max Klinger, Miles O'Brien and Mrs. Spider-Man.
For a kick, I once 'resolved' the fates of the TV MU characters in a Quantum Leap/TV-Hulk fic. Basically, the MU as we know it never panned out. Doctor Strange died permanently sealing away that Old One/Dormammu thing from his movie, and it was really the only threat of that type in their reality. Captain America gave his life stopping the Beirut Barracks Bombing in the early 80's. Thor and Blake completed whatever they had to, and parted. Matt Murdock found the evidence to jail Fisk. Since the Spidey series had no girlfriend (Betty was there, but not in that way), I had Parker marry Rosalind Chao's character, making her the wife of Max Klinger, Miles O'Brien and Mrs. Spider-Man.
As luck would have it, I happened to pick up the first 2 seasons of the Incredible Hulk on DVD over the weekend and just last night I rewatched the pilot. I enjoyed this show immensely back when it was on the air, and even after all this time, it still seems like a pretty good show.
But after watching the new movie recently and comparing it to the pilot episode, I enjoyed the movie version much more. In the TV version, the Hulk seemed almost, well puny, in comparsion to the movie version and it just wasn't as exciting. The TV is a good drama, and enjoyable, there's no doubt about that, but it just doesn't convey the power of the Hulk IMHO.
But after watching the new movie recently and comparing it to the pilot episode, I enjoyed the movie version much more. In the TV version, the Hulk seemed almost, well puny, in comparsion to the movie version and it just wasn't as exciting. The TV is a good drama, and enjoyable, there's no doubt about that, but it just doesn't convey the power of the Hulk IMHO.
Betty was in that show? Where? I don't remember any comics characters from the show other than Peter, JJJ, and Aunt May in the pilot.
Yeah, I'll grant that the TV Hulk's strength was pretty toned down most of the time, and his feats of power were often rather limited, both due to budget and to network rules against violence. Of course our Hulk would never have killed anyone, but in "The First," they had Frye's Creature throw a boulder at a deer and miss, simply scaring it off, rather than actually killing it, which would've been more effective at showing its evil.
But I realized this when I saw the final battle of the two Hulks in "The First" recently. When Frye's Creature threw the Hulk into the equipment, the amount of damage that was done was merely comparable to that of Dick Durock throwing Lou Ferrigno into some breakaway props. If it had really been two Hulks battling, even Hulks of TV strength level, they should've been smashing each other clear through the walls, tearing down the whole house and the surrounding woods. But that would've been a budget-buster.
They aired "The First" on Sci-fi not too long ago. It's waiting for me on the dvr. Haven't seen it in years.
^^Yeah, that's where I saw it recently.
Sci-fi definitely has some cool marathons. Tales from the Dark Side, Twighlight Zone, X-Files, Hulk, all kinds of good stuff.
Christopher, I could be wrong - but there was definitely a female employee of the Bugle who worked with Peter--that much I would swear. Whether she was Betty, I'm now thinking not.
Memory jumbles up so much. For years, I would have sworn that Fleischer had a true 1940's Popeye/Superman Xover, but I must have dreamt it.
Memory jumbles up so much. For years, I would have sworn that Fleischer had a true 1940's Popeye/Superman Xover, but I must have dreamt it.
I guess in thinking about this more, the "toned-down" TV Hulk probably served it's purpose well. IIRC the TV show, at least in it's first few seasons, was pretty popular, with more than just "Sci-fi geeks." And maybe that's because it was not too over-the-top. I remember my parents watching the show with me and while you'd NEVER get them to admit it, I think they enjoyed nearly as much as me.
And I think that's because the show didn't try to go too "comic booky" and tired to stay somewhat realistic (once you got past the premise of a man turning into a green monster). Sure it had it's
moments, it's still TV after all, but overall I guess this version worked for what it was.Still kind of like the "Hulk Smash!" version though.
The only female Bugle employee who worked regularly with Peter in the 1978 series was Rita Conway, played by Chip Fields. His romantic interest was Julie Masters (Ellen Bry), a photographer from a rival newspaper.
I'm not going to get into the CGI vs. Big Actor as the hulk, but I think that the live Hulk, played by an actor that was ACTUALLY THERE ALL GREEN and not a pasted-on bunch of pixels, does add a certain...real-world feel? Genuine emotional connection? Something.
In any case, it certainly has it's advantages. And the non-geeks no doubt would find it somewhat less stupid.
In any case, it certainly has it's advantages. And the non-geeks no doubt would find it somewhat less stupid.
I had to smile a little at this comment. As I mentioned I rewatched the pilot last night on a 46 LCD HDTV played through a blu-ray player. You can see details now that were readily apparent back in the "old days." Let's just say Lou's green paint job wasn't the most consistent make-up job.
I'm actually watching the second episode of season one this very moment. One of the stunt men the Hulk is fighting has a spot on the back of his shirt that looks an awful lot like green paint.
Oh this gets funnier by the minute. They just had a scene with the Hulk fighting a bear in a swamp in the water. You could see the green paint all over the bear.
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You don't need HDTV to spot Lou's green shoes in many a scene....
Yeah but I don't ever recall seeing green paint on any other actor or prop. In this same episode that I wrote about above, there's a scene where he's leading a gal through the swamp (don't ask) and when she's parting company with him, you can see that the palm of her hand is absolutely covered in green paint.
Oh, the CGI is certainly more visually imposing. I'm not saying that the live-actor version of Hulk is way better or amazingly convincing, and sometimes the green stuff on Lou came off.
None-the-less, a total lack of effects adds a certain real-world quality. The Hulk isn't an effect, he's actually there beating people up sans any digital manipulation.
I guess the REAL PERSON playing hulk makes hulk more of a REAL PERSON to me. Not as amazing to look at. Certainly not as flashy and other-worldly. Live-action Hulk is way more mundane. But then again, he's not a cartoon.
So, as I said, both have reality issues, but I can't dismiss Lou's Hulk.
None-the-less, a total lack of effects adds a certain real-world quality. The Hulk isn't an effect, he's actually there beating people up sans any digital manipulation.
I guess the REAL PERSON playing hulk makes hulk more of a REAL PERSON to me. Not as amazing to look at. Certainly not as flashy and other-worldly. Live-action Hulk is way more mundane. But then again, he's not a cartoon.
So, as I said, both have reality issues, but I can't dismiss Lou's Hulk.
Green paint, schmeen paint. (And it's called make-up, not "paint.") Every FX technique looks artificial in one way or another... because it is artificial. It's just a question of which artificialities you're more willing to overlook. It's called willing suspension of disbelief for a reason.
In the future, mind control will lead to a new movie-making technique.
Unwilling suspension of disbelief.
Not only will you believe it's real, you will end up spending $100,000 on Hulk-proof windows after viewing the movie. You will then HAIL THE HYPNO-TOAD.
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