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ssosmcin said:
According to Solow and Justman, the execs didn't like a) Majel Barrett as Number One, b) most of the cast other than Jeffrey Hunter, c) the "green woman with the bumps and grinds", d) and that it wasn't a representitve episode of the series. It was too big, too expensive, too slow, etc. The network picked it because they wanted to see what Desilu could do, not necesarily because they loved the script. So they decided Trek deserved another shot. However, it had to be shot more quickly, for less money and with some cast changes. The only one they seemed to want back was Jeff Hunter, who decided he would rather do movies (his wife delivered that message).
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Not so sure about the bumps and grinds, but with all of the women wearing next to nothing all of the time then all of the guest women wearing questionable wardrobe choices after that, well, it seems actually rather stupid of a point.(not saying this about your comment, rather that whoever made this choice)
Comparing this episode to almost all of the other episodes, all power was taken from the women to make the show 'successful'(at the time)
When I was young, I envisioned a world where women wouldn't have to dress like harem women.
I'm still waiting.
 
Nakita Akita said:
Not so sure about the bumps and grinds, but with all of the women wearing next to nothing all of the time then all of the guest women wearing questionable wardrobe choices after that, well, it seems actually rather stupid of a point.(not saying this about your comment, rather that whoever made this choice)
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Just sayin' that was a quote from the book. "And enough of the green women with the bumps and grinds, okay?" Probably an anecdote for the sake of the book rather than an exact quote.
 
Sadly I have no idea where to lay my hands on said issue! I had a few more, one where Stonn arrives on the Enterprise and he and Spock reminisce about losing T'Pring and how lucky they both were! :vulcan:
JB
 
ssosmcin said:
According to Solow and Justman, the execs didn't like a) Majel Barrett as Number One, b) most of the cast other than Jeffrey Hunter, c) the "green woman with the bumps and grinds", d) and that it wasn't a representitve episode of the series. It was too big, too expensive, too slow, etc. The network picked it because they wanted to see what Desilu could do, not necessarily because they loved the script. So they decided Trek deserved another shot. However, it had to be shot more quickly, for less money and with some cast changes. The only one they seemed to want back was Jeff Hunter, who decided he would rather do movies (his wife delivered that message).
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Here's the relevant Herb Solow quote from Inside Star Trek p. 60, where he parapharses the network re cast of "The Cage" (I underlined two key bits):
Herb Solow said:
Then came their [NBC's] wants and desires...

"In varying degrees, we're not too happy with some of the cast. We support the concept of a woman in a strong, leading role, but we have serious doubts as to Majel Barrett's abilities to 'carry' the show as its costar. We also think you can do better with the ship's doctor, the yeoman, and other members of the crew. We applaud the attempt at a racial mix: it's exactly what we want. Hopefully, there'll be more experienced minority actors available for next year. Jeffrey Hunter was okay, and if you want to use him again, that's fine with us.

"Leonard Nimoy isn't a problem, the role he plays is a major problem! If you want to lose Nimoy, that's also fine with us..."
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Thanks, I was pulling from memory.

"We applaud the attempt at a racial mix: it's exactly what we want."

I think there's an Asian transporter tech and one of the non-dialog Talosians was also Asian. Not much of a mix... That always sounded to me like Solow pushing the non-racist stance of the NBC execs to counter Roddenberry's claims rather than an accurate quote.Was there a memo in the files with that statement? If there was, they were watching a different pilot.
 
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ssosmcin said:
Isn't that the same issue JB was referring to?

The Klingon's got the Talosian telepathic powers and Kirk snapped when he had to relive Edith Keller's death. That was a pretty darned good issue.
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I think JB was referring to a different one, from DC's later Trek run (early '90s?). It's set during the movie era, like TVH-TUC period or something.

Edit: I didn't see this was already discussed above. :o

Kor
 
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