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Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

Midichlorians never bothered me. There. I said it.

They still don't and it would take a really stupid retcon of what we already know about them and some pretty horrible writing for me to start feeling all mad at them.
 
You can say that again. Or better yet, let's see what the man himself said about it way back in 1977: -
And again. The author of that book said George told him to add that line about Midichlorians retroactively.

Edit: oojason beat me to it. I didn't see there was another page in the thread.
 
It may also be part of her impressive piloting skills, the Force.
She did tell Omega it's all about "a feeling" she had, so it's not impossible. This also plays into the notion that Han may be more naturally force sensitive than he realises; he just calls it "luck". Plus of course there's that whole thing about Poe growing up near a force tree . . .
 
I mean, anyone can use the Force has been around since the early part of Lucas' ideas. It just takes training and focus to do it. And Rebels hinted at it as well, with Kanan's comment that "everyone has the Force" regarding Sabine.

This is not new.


This is news to me. Nor do I recall this concept in any of the six movies that Lucas did.


People are getting hung up on midi-chlorians again, when what was not the point of bringing up the information in the first place. The original quote even proves the point that was being made about people and the Force.

The point has been hammered again and again. The Force is in all living things and is a thing that can be learned. But you have to be open to it. Some people and species are better at it than others, but everyone can. Sabine has a hard time of it, probably because she is Mandalorian. That is a very different path in life, and it will take a lot of effort to unlearn what she has learned as both a Mandalorian and as a Rebel. That she is at least willing to learn is a start. Ahoska has also seemingly been making a mistake in this training. She's teaching Sabine to be a Jedi Warrior, but Sabine is already a warrior. She doesn't need to be trained to fight, she's known that her whole life. Sabine needs the spiritual training of a Jedi, the teaching Ahsoka would have gotten from Yoda, or Sinube. Patience. Learning to listen to the Force. How to connect to it via the things around her.

We also see Hera hearing what Jacen was hearing via the Force. Jacen clearly has talent for the Force at a young age. Like many children that the Jedi would have recruited to eventually become Knights. Yet it also shows that Hera has a connection with the Force. It may not be very much, but when she quiets her mind and listens, she can hear it. It may also be part of her impressive piloting skills, the Force.

I'm well aware that it was established that the Force exists in all living things. I've been aware of that since the Original Trilogy. But the idea that anyone can become a Force user or Jedi/Sith? That I don't recall. As for Hera hearing what Jacen was hearing via the Force? Did I miss that scene in this series or was it in "Star Wars Rebels"? And again, both were creations of Disney Star Wars.

Are we supposed to believe that anyone can become a Force user or Jedi/Sith now? Is that the new rule?

You know . . . Disney Studios now has control of Star Wars franchise. I guess it can do whatever it wants. But a part of me . . . no, all of me now wishes that George Lucas had never sold the franchise to the studio. Even after eleven years. I wish Disney had created its own sci-fi/fantasy franchise, instead of buying and redoing someone else's creation.
 
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So . . . Lucas' original intent was to make anyone capable of being a Jedi? What changed his mind? You know what? I guess it doesn't matter. All I know is . . . I don't like Disney's handling of the Star Wars franchise. And I don't like how Lucasfilm keeps changing GL's story in many ways. I guess it took this show to make me finally face my feelings on this matter.
 
So . . . Lucas' original intent was to make anyone capable of being a Jedi? What changed his mind? You know what? I guess it doesn't matter. All I know is . . . I don't like Disney's handling of the Star Wars franchise. And I don't like how Lucasfilm keeps changing GL's story in many ways. I guess it took this show to make me finally face my feelings on this matter.
Not sure why this is surprising.

There is nothing firm one way or the other. That fans assume one way or the other doesn't change it. That Lucas had intent does not mean it can't change. Lucas changed his mind on many things. Lightsabers were heavy to weild until they were not. Leia wasn't Luke's sister until she was.

That's the nature of writing.
 
I don't think I ever shared my thoughts on Tuesday's episode.
The best part of the episode was all of the stuff with Anakin and Ahsoka in The World Between Worlds. I especially loved the Clone Wars, it was cool to see a live action version of Ahsoka from that era.
I noticed they had Ahsoka wearing something similar to what we go in the final scene Rebels after she recovered.
Teva trying to delay the New Republic Fleet was pretty fun.
My only disappointment was noting seeing Sabine, Morgan and all of her people at all.
 
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Not sure why this is surprising.

There is nothing firm one way or the other. That fans assume one way or the other doesn't change it. That Lucas had intent does not mean it can't change. Lucas changed his mind on many things. Lightsabers were heavy to weild until they were not. Leia wasn't Luke's sister until she was.

That's the nature of writing.

Yes, I understand that. Which is why I find the current idea of any sentient being can be a Jedi with some training in the franchise, a bit hard to swallow.

It's interesting that many have been commenting on the Jedi using Ahsoka and other young Jedi as child soldiers. But apparently, the Jedi were not the only ones. Sabine Wren is two years older than Luke, Leia and Ezra. She was 16 years old when Kanan Jarrus and Hera Seydulla had recruited her into their Rebel cell. Ezra was 15 years old when he was recruited. Sabine had already been trained as a Mandalorian warrior before meeting Kanan and Hera. In fact, she had also been a cadet for the Imperial Academy, as well. "Star Wars Rebels" has already revealed that the Imperial Academy had recruited cadets at an early age.
 
Those Imperial cadets are basically 14 or 15 years old, and are training to become stormtroopers. Wedge is at an elite flight academy. He's probably around Sabine's age. He's been a pilot prior to being recruited by the Empire.
 
The crazy part is that Sabine spent time as a freelance bounty hunter with Ketsu between fleeing the Academy and being recruited by Hera & Kanan. The idea of a pair of heavily armed 14 or 15 year olds chasing down bail jumpers and petty criminals is just wild. Kind of baffling how they never really elaborated much on this part of her past. You'd think it'd at least be worth a limited comic series or something?

Anyway: Vol 1 of the soundtrack has been released into the wild. (also on Amazon, Apple, Spotify etc.)
As much as I've enjoyed Ludwig Göransson, Nicholas Britell & Joseph Shirley's work on the other D+ shows, nobody even comes close to Kevin Kiner when it comes to capturing that classic John Williams feel.
 
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Yes, I understand that. Which is why I find the current idea of any sentient being can be a Jedi with some training in the franchise, a bit hard to swallow.
Why? Using the Force and becoming a Jedi are two different things. A Jedi is dedicated to intense study and training and providing peacekeeping activities.

Not everyone is going to stick with it.
 
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