A DS9 Borg Episode

[Solariabsg25]

Had DS9 done an episode featuring The Borg, how do you think it would have gone down?

Sisko barely contained his feelings of resentment at Picard in "Emissary", how do you feel he would have coped with encountering actual Borg?

 

[timelord1010]

That would be hard to do. The best way was the tie in with the movie First Contact. DS9 could have showed a "prequel" of sorts to the movie and had an episode showing the cube heading for Federation space and maybe it passes near DS9 and Worf takes the Defiant to meet up with the fleet and begin battling the cube thru Federation space. The episode could end with the scene in the movie showing Worf preparing to ram the cube and the Enterprise shows up. The screen goes black with the caption: "To be continued in Star Trek: First Contact".

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

It's all non-canon, but an early novel had a Borg Cube popping through the wormhole after stumbling through it. However, the Cube was far too large for what the wormhole could pass through, and so it was barely visible in the event horizon before it imploded. Sisko and the gang quickly noted that because the cube would have essentially disappeared, that it would be quite some time before the skittish Borg sent anything else to investigate. They then continued with the main story, pausing long enough to note that Bashir was on Earth at the time of the first Borg incursion.

Mark

 

[Saxman1]

"Emissary" largely concerned the Borg, the damage done to Sisko and the real beginning of his journey. DS9 was very smart to only use the Borg once (and I think another used a brief flashback) in the best ep to guest or feature them (however briefly) since BOBW, perhaps the only decent sequel (aside from TNG's "Family") to BOBW IMHO.

 

[KyleCHaight]

Since "Star Trek: Voyager" utilized the Borg so heavily, it would have been a bit of overkill to have them appear on DS9.

As far as the "Sisko Revenge" thing, I always felt his hatred of the Borg was aimed directly at Locutus (and by extension, Picard) and that it had pretty much been resolved in "Emissary" when shakes Picard's hand.

Furthermore, Picard already had a personal vendetta against the Borg, and again, it would have been overkill for Sisko to have it as well.

 

[Charles Trip Tucker III]

The Borg were TNG/VOY's thing, so they really didn't need to be on DS9. However, I would have liked to see a DS9 episode tie into First Contact. They could have had an episode where Worf is commanding the Defiant in a battle against the Borg Cube ending with the Enterprise-E rescuing his crew and leading the final assault on the cube, blowing it to bits. The next episode could feature Worf returning to DS9 in the Defiant with some dialogue about the movie from Worf's point of view.

 

[Solariabsg25]

Interesting thoughts, I do believe that the numerous appearances of The Borg in Voyager did end up watering them down.

However, I feel that Sisko's hostility originally directed towards Picard was simply because he had been Locutus, and facing "normal" Borg may have still had an effect on him psychologically.

One thought, as Sisko is a trained Starfleet officer, obviously fully briefed on the Borg considering he was working on the design of the Defiant, he still allowed his feelings to get the better of him. I wonder if Picard had recieved hate-mail, threats, or even possibly experienced assaults from the relatives of those who'd died at Wolf 359?

Of course, it would have been great had they been able to portray Sisko in command of the Defiant in First Contact, but hard to accomplish with him being the main character of DS9.

I am glad that earlier scripts for First Contact showing Sisko sending Worf in the Defiant to defend Earth were not included, as IMHO Sisko would have insisted on commanding the ship himself.

 

[CaptainHawk1]

KyleCHaight said:
Since "Star Trek: Voyager" utilized the Borg so heavily, it would have been a bit of overkill to have them appear on DS9.

Well, the thing about it is that the Borg aren't even introduced until what, the third season of VOY (which is the fifth season of DS9) and being that they were in the DQ, there was no way to avoid that. So you can't really claim that VOY's use of the Borg in storylines had any effect on DS9's storylines.

At the same time, there was simply no place for Borg story arcs really beyond DS9's second season because they were so heavily engaged in the conflict with the Dominion.

On the same note, it's clear that the intention of the writers (especially for the first 2 seasons that ran concurrently with TNG) was to deliberately distinguish DS9 from TNG and that's why the only real connection you saw (on DS9, anyway) was the sole Q episode from season 1.

-Shawn

 

[Anwar]

What about continuing the Cardassian stuff and Maquis stuff whish was all set-up or begun in TNG?

 

[Red Ranger]

Anwar said:
What about continuing the Cardassian stuff and Maquis stuff whish was all set-up or begun in TNG?

Anwar,

Are you sure the Maquis originated in TNG? I do remember the ep that featured Ro Laren joining them, but for some reason, I seem to recall the two-part Maquis ep first introduced them in DSN. I could be wrong, so anyone, feel free to help out.

As for the original question, I'm glad DSN didn't have more Borg stories aside from the premiere ep.

Red Ranger

 

[Anwar]

The DMZ and the colonists who were dissatisfied with the treaty were established in TNG, in fact that world colonized by Native Americans was supposed to be Chakotay's homeworld, I think, or at least connected with his people.

 

[Broccoli]

Anwar said:
What about continuing the Cardassian stuff and Maquis stuff whish was all set-up or begun in TNG?

Eh...different circumstances.

The Cardassian stuff from TNG Season 5 on was used to set-up DS9.

The Maquis was first introduced on DS9. A few weeks later TNG did an episode with them. Those were basically used to set-up Voyager (although DS9 did get some mileage out of the Maquis as well).

 

[simonbland]

Would have liked to have seen a two parter focusing on the Borg, in a huge Borg battle, inside the Borg cube and outside the Borg cube

 

[DS9Continuing]

^^^Then watch Voyager.

 

[gcmcdowell]

It might have been interesting to see a lone borg ship in the Gamma Quadrant fighting the Dominion - and somehow our intrepid Starfleet officers have to get into the fray and save the day or take advantage of the situation to cause a set-back on both sides.

Just a thought . . .

 

[Saul]

There was a Rumour that Sisko was going to fight alongside Picard in "Star Trek: Destiny" (First Contact) I read about that in the "Star Trek magazine" UK. I also remember a graphic novel one time in which Sisko fought the Borg in the Holodeck on DS9. Can't remember the name though. He kept trying to see if there was anyway he could have won that battle.

 

[Good Will Riker]

saul said:
I also remember a graphic novel one time in which Sisko fought the Borg in the Holodeck on DS9. Can't remember the name though. He kept trying to see if there was anyway he could have won that battle.

Was that pre-Worf or post-Worf?

 

[Navaros]

All I know is DS9 would have kept the Borg interesting and elevated the Borg to a new level of greatness.

 

[Anwar]

Well yeah, DS9 had the entire Alpha Quadrant to back them up for a grand battle with the Borg. All there was in VOY was one small ship with no allies. THey couldn't do any big battles there or else VOY would be destroyed and the show over.

 

[Charles Trip Tucker III]

saul said:
There was a Rumour that Sisko was going to fight alongside Picard in "Star Trek: Destiny" (First Contact) I read about that in the "Star Trek magazine" UK.

Why didn't they go through with it?