Except for being clever, I suppose.
Women without children
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This is a tough thing for me. For much of my adult life I did not want to have a kid. Really just didn't see the point. We were having plenty of fun with out one.
Then, a series of incidents convinced us to have one. And, now she's the highlight of our lives.
I'd never say you have to have kids to be happy and would never say everyone should have kids. However, I really want people to be open to the idea that even if they don't want kids at one point that they should keep re-evaluating that. There is major potential for regret later.
I know some people who don't have kids. Some are happy but some totally regret it. Not having kids totally works for some. But, due to the irreversible nature of the decision at some point in your life, it's good to keep an open mind at least.
But, to the OP, no, not having kids doesn't make someone wooden or not emphathetic.
Mr Awe
I guess this guy has lived a sheltered enough live to have never sat at a bus stop and seen examples of how some mothers (who- by his logic- MUST be empathetic....) treat their small children worse than a dog that they are sick of caring for.
I know quite a few women who have not had children (some of them nurses, some of them teachers who surround themselves daily with small bundles of energy [that would WEAR ME OUT COMPLETELY!] and treat them with love and care as they teach them the lessons they need to get along better in life). I guess these women he would somehow view as lacking empathy.
I call bull**** on his comment.
On the other had, we in the U.S. can point to quite a few recent MALE politicians who have indeed fathered children, but have not had the moral character or empathy to spare their families of the pain that comes from having the family fractured by Dad's desire to "Hike the Appalachian Trail" or other such things....
Why do the politicians have to give us so much reason to hate politicians?....
I know quite a few women who have not had children (some of them nurses, some of them teachers who surround themselves daily with small bundles of energy [that would WEAR ME OUT COMPLETELY!] and treat them with love and care as they teach them the lessons they need to get along better in life). I guess these women he would somehow view as lacking empathy.
I call bull**** on his comment.
On the other had, we in the U.S. can point to quite a few recent MALE politicians who have indeed fathered children, but have not had the moral character or empathy to spare their families of the pain that comes from having the family fractured by Dad's desire to "Hike the Appalachian Trail" or other such things....
Why do the politicians have to give us so much reason to hate politicians?....
One of my coworkers called a parent to congratulate the Mom on her son raising his English grade from an F to a B in one quarter and the mother replied "I don't have time for this shit!" and hung up the phone.
Adoption is certainly an option to consider, though of course being a single parent, whether male or female, takes a lot of VERY careful consideration when you choose to become one (as opposed to becoming one by circumstance). It can be done, though. If someone is interested in children but does not have a relationship, there are many children already born who need a home.
I'm not defending his words. That would be silly. But a lot of people here are abusing the man, and that's not acceptable.
I'm actually posting thinking about women who I've known who have regretted not having their own biological child. Maybe you cannot imagine using donor sperm when you are 25 and assume that someday you will end up with someone but when you are 40 and looking back it looks a lot different. What if you really wanted a child and could tell that finding a partner was not a given for you, for whatever reason? Start planning financially early on and looking into non-partner conception, of which donor sperm is only one option.
Eh, he's a politician. Giving him abuse is always acceptable, especially when they say dumb things.
Not what I meant.
I had no idea I need any special luck to live my life just because I don't want children
And as for the idea that she's somehow a lesser person because she hasn't had kids...words fail me.
It makes more sense if you know who Mark Latham is.
If you understand any of the following words, it might give you greater insight into the "man",
Boofhead
Bogan
Bully-boy
Twit
Twat
Attention-seeker
Attention-whore
Loudmouth
Failed at everything he does so he has to get attention by making ridiculous and hyperbolic statements
And I am PRO LABOUR! So that tells you what a complete and utter fucktard c**t we are dealing with here.
Not what I meant.
I had no idea I need any special luck to live my life just because I don't want children
Indeed.
I think Gul Whatever just doesn't understand the saying.
It's like saying, "Do whatever you want and all the best to you in your life choice." Not sure if it's just an Australian term but I know it's similar to those typical Aussie sayings like, "Good on ya'!"
Eye rolling was not necessary.
Plenty of vitriol and invective against a man you only ever met through thrity second news grabs.
Would it be wrong of me to point out the hypocrisy here?
I think it's interesting that, by and large, we still sort of expect politicians to conform to a conventional lifestyle as far as family is concerned. In some cases, it has even become almost institutional, like the importance of the 'First Lady' (not just in the USA, it's important in my country, too). And an overproportional amount of politicians do lead rather traditional personal lives but when they don't for whatever reason the media and the public tend to struggle with it. There's speculation whether singles are gay/lesbian or (mild) outrage about their partners not conforming to traditional expectations (e.g. the Chancelorette's husband rarely appearing by her side or the Foreign Minister's husband actually having a job that might make it profitable for him to accompany his husband on trips abroad).
I suppose, it's a process.
I suppose, it's a process.
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Take comfort in that. On the other end of the spectrum, you have Silvio Berlusconi. It's not a happy place.
Isn't that the conventional lifestyle for Italians? 
Could somebody please define "bogan," without using Latham as your response? I've seen that term in several threads now and I'm not sure exactly what kind of insult it is.
Think 'redneck'
edit - see http://thingsboganslike.com/ . They try way too hard to be funny but they explain what bogan-ism is quite well
edit - see http://thingsboganslike.com/ . They try way too hard to be funny but they explain what bogan-ism is quite well
Not what I meant.I had no idea I need any special luck to live my life just because I don't want children
Indeed.
I think Gul Whatever just doesn't understand the saying.
It's like saying, "Do whatever you want and all the best to you in your life choice." Not sure if it's just an Australian term but I know it's similar to those typical Aussie sayings like, "Good on ya'!"
Eye rolling was not necessary.
If someone doesn't speak English as a first language, AND is not familiar with Australian colloquialisms, it's not something that's perfectly clear. I think that what you may have meant in a positive sense did indeed come off sarcastic. I wasn't exactly sure of the intention myself, and I do speak English as my first language...just a different dialect. And often in American English, telling someone "Good luck with that" is a sarcastic put-down used when you think that person's about to walk into something stupid, or you want them to fail.
At least, with the right tone of voice it easily and often becomes that. Without being able to hear the tone, it can very easily be mistaken for a jab regardless of what was actually meant.
Says more about the listener than the sayer, that does. Why would you choose to interpret it in a negative way?
