Why is Sisko not more prominent...
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^That's because France was anexed by the Third British Empire following WWIII. :P Ok joking aside. But back to the topic at hand the 1960's were different socially speaking than the 90's. So back in the 60's yes it was kind of a big deal the 1990's not so much so. As for Gunian, I suspect that's more down to Whoopi Goldberg appearing on the show, I doubt it would have generated the same interesst if it was a lesser known actor.
DS9, with it's long wandering story arc, simply wasn't accessible to the occasional drop in viewer. TOS and TNG were episodic and so more people in the general public were aware of the show, and it's actors.
I've found that far more Black people know of Avery Brooks (if at all) as the character of Hawk, than as the character of Sisko.
Apparently Hawk is considered more "Black."
Good point. Blacks (in general, sans a few exceptions) in America don't watch sci-fi. Ask about Hawk, The Jeffersons, Blackula, Shaft and they're all over it. A black colleague of mine were talking about shows that we watch and had no idea Avery Brooks (whom he admired) was in Star Trek. Said he can't stand shows outside of reality....
I tend to view most television as make believe or non-reality. Doesn't really matter what genre you watch most of it's make believe. True it might not be in the Sci-Fi genre (which I'm guessing is what your friend means).
And not a true representation of an entire race. I grew up with black kids who loved sci-fi (Star Trek, Star Wars, and even Doctor Who to name a few) and they still do as adults. They're just not generally geeky with it, though.DS9, with it's long wandering story arc, simply wasn't accessible to the occasional drop in viewer. TOS and TNG were episodic and so more people in the general public were aware of the show, and it's actors.
I've found that far more Black people know of Avery Brooks (if at all) as the character of Hawk, than as the character of Sisko.
Apparently Hawk is considered more "Black."
Good point. Blacks (in general, sans a few exceptions) in America don't watch sci-fi. Ask about Hawk, The Jeffersons, Blackula, Shaft and they're all over it. A black colleague of mine were talking about shows that we watch and had no idea Avery Brooks (whom he admired) was in Star Trek. Said he can't stand shows outside of reality....
I tend to think of Picard as being of French ancestry, but actually being more European than anything else. It probably wasn't the case with earlier generations of Picards though...
Thank God he wasn't as prominent as the other captains, because Brooks couldn't act.
And that was the director's job. That the actor was not told to "tone it down" more often indicates the director liked his choices.
That was pretty much my point. Hugh Laurie as House plays his character pretty straight on as an American character. Picard was supposed to be a French man but he was so stereotypically British it doesn't even show that he's French. Same with Beltran in Voyager he plays a stereotypical Native American, although sometimes it's too broad and a mixture of almost all NA tribes still it's stereotypical.
This is just so wrong it's not even funny. To me Sisko was the best overall character of any of the Post TOS Captains overall. Nothing against Patrick Stewart for Picard, he's the 2nd best by far and much more likeable than Archer or Janeway, but the flaws with his character the first half of the series made him hard to like overall. But Brooks did the best job building his character over 7 seasons of any of the Newer captains without changing to many of a lot of the foundation that was laid for the character from the start.
LOL NO
His so called "acting" in "Far Beyond the Stars" makes it one of my least favorite Trek episodes ever. He's just laughable, people don't behave or talk like Sisko does in real life.
If that was their intention, they didn't do it very well...
It's not so hard to figure out IMO.
Most noted black American TV actors, since the early to mid 1990s, starred in popular shows. DS9 was top quality, as we all know, but never was a pop culture phenomenon.
This is why of all the Captains, Kirk and Picard are the best known, and incidentally why Shatner and Sir Patrick Stewart are world famous actors.
Most noted black American TV actors, since the early to mid 1990s, starred in popular shows. DS9 was top quality, as we all know, but never was a pop culture phenomenon.
This is why of all the Captains, Kirk and Picard are the best known, and incidentally why Shatner and Sir Patrick Stewart are world famous actors.
If that's true, then that is a disservice to women leaders everywhere. I hope to Sto'Vo'Kor that my husband never reads this, but women aren't always right and perfect. The best leaders make mistakes, learn from them and try to turn the problem around.
Sisko should be known as the best leader and captain, he not only managed the station, but kept up a complicated relationship with an alien planet all while being human (until...that is
)Sisko should be known as the best leader and captain, he not only managed the station, but kept up a complicated relationship with an alien planet all while being human (until...that is
Until he became a god?
dJE
Sisko should be known as the best leader and captain, he not only managed the station, but kept up a complicated relationship with an alien planet all while being human (until...that is
Until he became a god?
dJE
Yes, I can't exactly argue that Sisko was the most "human" like I want to b/c of that detail
THIS!
Oh, and granted Avery Brooks did have some name recognition for Spencer, it wasn't on the level as Levar Burton's or Whoopi Goldberg's, with Whoopi being a bonafide A-List celebrity at the time she started on Next Gen.
Come to think of it, maybe it's a good thing Sisko wasn't treated with all the bells and whistles, as it meant that non-Caucasian males could take meaty roles such as the Commander, and later Captain, in charge of a space station without having to deal with the fanfare of "oh look, SEE RACIAL EQUALITY" because it just happens.
Or DA lawyer (Law & Order), the guy in charge of a squad in a police unit (NYPD Blue), etc.
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