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Why aren't there any Live-Action Mecha shows

Infinitus

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There are a ton of science-fiction shows, but none of them are about giant robots. There are a ton of anime about giant robots, but why aren't there any live-action shows that involve combat with giant robots.

Also if you were to create one, what would it be like?
 
I guess TV execs are too afraid that people will think that mechas are stupid (because of Power Rangers?).

If it happens it will probably an "accidental" breakout hit.

Let's face it, BattleTech is not popular/well-known enough.
 
I think a lot of it has to do with cost.

Mecha really isn't "brandable" enough to warrant a feature, and the cost to do the CGI convincingly week in and week out would be astronomical.
 
Probably because of budgetary reasons since shows like Stargate Universe, Farscape, and Battlestar Galactica are really expensive to produce and get low ratings it makes a live action space based/mech show infeasible to make.
 
i think it isn't until really recently that a live action show could be done within a reasonable budget and still look good.

I nominate Robotech for the first live action mecha show.
 
Let's face it, BattleTech is not popular/well-known enough.

This should be fixed. I would pay good money for a well-done, well-budgeted Battletech show or movie. :drool:

Amen to that.. have them do the "low tech" level for 2-3 seasons with all kinds of cool battles and skirmishes, follow Wolf's Dragoons as the main unit and glimpse at some mystery surrounding them and with the season 3 finale.. BAM.. the Clans invade! :drool:

God.. i'd die to see that properly done on TV. Why can't i be a billionaire, found my own TV production company and produce my own shows :(
 
Okay, so it would be impossible to make a live action mech show. So I'll change the discussion. If it was possible, you having the funds, marketability, and have high ratings, how would you create a mecha show. And I want details.
 
Maybe that Robot Jox-esque movie with Hugh Jackman will turn the tide and giant robot mechs will be the new vampire and/or zombie craze.
 
There are a ton of science-fiction shows, but none of them are about giant robots. There are a ton of anime about giant robots, but why aren't there any live-action shows that involve combat with giant robots.

The "problem" is in order to do a true mecha show, you need to eliminate human elements like emotion, romance, conflict, etc. And ever since SF film began, the focus has always been on these elements, with the SF part being a maguffin to move the plot along in the background. That was Roddenberry's philosophy, and it's also followed by Doctor Who, both versions of BSG, Firefly, etc. Even going further back to A For Andromeda, Forbidden Planet, and Metropolis.

Where attempts have been made to do a film or TV series where the tech takes priority over character, in most of the cases, they fail because critics and audiences are conditioned that they want human stories, and could really care less about the science. One reason why 2001 and Blade Runner failed at the box office (they both bombed at first) was because people felt the balance tipped too far to the science (when Ridley Scott reinserted character moments into B Runner like the unicorn, it got a better reception). Star Trek TMP, likewise, got the balance too far in one direction (as evidenced by it use of "spaceship porn" for lack of a better term to describe the shots of the new Enterprise and the interior of V'Ger).

So while it would be cool to have a fully mecha-type live action show made for western audiences, I just don't think the mainstream wants those types of stories. Transformers came close, but let's face it most of its audience went to see Megan Fox, not the robots.

Advances in CGI really don't mean a change, either. For example, when they made Avatar, they still had to spend a good chunk of the film featuring regular flesh-and-blood people having discussions and conflict. They couldn't just start the film with a full-CG lead character and spend the whole film that way. And I mean "couldn't" in the sense of the film wouldn't have worked with the mainstream without the human element. If Transformers had been nothing but CG of a bunch of robots doing their thing, it would have bombed.

Alex
 
I guess TV execs are too afraid that people will think that mechas are stupid
And would they really be wrong? ;)
Nope; although mechs are pretty cool, they are at least as dumb as Superman.

It doesn't help that most of the Japanese shows which do feature mechs, even the good ones, tend to be stupid on many levels beyond the implausibility of humaniform war machines. Gundam SEED Destiny, for example, is one of the worst TV programs to have ever aired. It's a run-off between that and Heil Honey, I'm Home.

But that's a function of Sturgeon's Law more than anything else.

I think I would like to see a really high-budget, maybe even American (for an origin in the English language), animated series that followed in the footsteps of the good (or watchable) Gundam shows.

23skiddoo said:
The "problem" is in order to do a true mecha show, you need to eliminate human elements like emotion, romance, conflict, etc.

I don't see that following at all. I mean, yeah, I'm harsh on the anime, but they tried to and even occasionally succeeded in including all those things.

Okay, so it would be impossible to make a live action mech show. So I'll change the discussion. If it was possible, you having the funds, marketability, and have high ratings, how would you create a mecha show. And I want details.

I had an idea once where the kaiju* had won, and you could easily have the one percent of humanity still left using mechs to fight back. But while it's a reasonably solid idea, it's probably been done. In fact I think Ultraman might have been that idea. I don't really remember.

*Kaiju = giant monsters, ala Godzilla, Mothra, Gamera, and the like.
 
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Only live action shows I can think of with mecha are two kids shows: Hypernauts: live action+cgi; and Captain Power: live action, early cgi. Both involved members of the Babylon 5 creative team...JMS in Capt Power; Lawrence DiTillo and John Copeland, Doug Netter, and Ron Thornton on Hypernauts.

Hypernauts

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Capt Power

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Other shows with mecha:

Seaquest DSV:

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I think maybe Andromeda had some too
 
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I guess TV execs are too afraid that people will think that mechas are stupid
And would they really be wrong? ;)
Nope; although mechs are pretty cool, they are at least as dumb as Superman.

It doesn't help that most of the Japanese shows which do feature mechs, even the good ones, tend to be stupid on many levels beyond the implausibility of humaniform war machines. Gundam SEED Destiny, for example, is one of the worst TV programs to have ever aired. It's a run-off between that and Heil Honey, I'm Home.
SEED Destiny's problems were all backstage stuff that would cripple any show. The general stupidity of mecha anime can be explained for Gundam as Sunrise wanting to stick to the formulas that have worked in the past in order to keep making money, Macross having a producer who pretty much pulled a George Lucas, and I have no idea about the rest, beyond the usual failings of the anime industry.

I think I would like to see a really high-budget, maybe even American (for an origin in the English language), animated series that followed in the footsteps of the good (or watchable) Gundam shows.
How would that work?
 
I dunno. I don't have a shooting script ready or anything.

But the whole High Frontier-plus-mechanoid-war-machines thing is a great backdrop, and significantly not one that Bandai can lay any great claim too, since they stole it from Gerard O'Neill in the first place. :p
 
Personally, I don't get the logic of starfighters that can also walk. Surely, if ground-transport viability is a must, wheels are more efficient than legs.
 
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