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When was concept of nanites introduced to the borg?

JoeZhang

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After re-watching the best of both worlds, I'm wondering when nanites were first added to the Borg concept?
 
The first mention of nanoprobes as part of the assimilation process was on Voyager in "Scorpion". But I think the intent of the writers from First Contact on was they were always a part of the process even though it wasn't ever seen or mentioned in TNG.
 
The first mention of nanoprobes as part of the assimilation process was on Voyager in "Scorpion". But I think the intent of the writers from First Contact on was they were always a part of the process even though it wasn't ever seen or mentioned in TNG.

Yes - I did laugh when you have Borg Expert Shelby looking puzzled and saying "nanites?".
 
. . .And who knew about nanites? Picard did!

Why did Picard know about nanotechnology? Because Wesley Crusher just had to make some in an earlier episode.

The Borg became far more efficient assimilating machines thanks to WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!!

Stupid kid. . .:guffaw:
 
The first mention of nanoprobes as part of the assimilation process was on Voyager in "Scorpion". But I think the intent of the writers from First Contact on was they were always a part of the process even though it wasn't ever seen or mentioned in TNG.

Probably because, with the exception of Picard, the Borg only assimilated technology on TNG. And with Picard they took their sweet time. But by the time of FC they are insta-assimilating people right and left, so understandably it's sped up a bit.
 
. . .And who knew about nanites? Picard did!

Why did Picard know about nanotechnology? Because Wesley Crusher just had to make some in an earlier episode.

The Borg became far more efficient assimilating machines thanks to WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!!

Stupid kid. . .:guffaw:
Cute, although I do feel the need to point out that nanites were not an invention of Wesley's; they were just his research project at the time. The nanites were originally part of Sickbay's genetic tools, as they could enter cells and (by design) conduct repairs. Picard should know about them if he's up on useful medical technologies, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were used to help him recover from his heart surgeries or that genetic disorder we learned he had when Nemesis hit us.
 
Retroactively speaking, why was Picard assimilated "crudely," other than the desire not to have him look too Borgish when appearing before "authority-driven, archaic cultures"?
 
Some sort of time line pollution happened, either in FIRST CONTACT or Enterprise's REGENERATION, which gave the Borg nanotech "all along" when in fact they did not have it on TNG.

Or a wizard did it.
 
The first mention of nanoprobes as part of the assimilation process was on Voyager in "Scorpion". But I think the intent of the writers from First Contact on was they were always a part of the process even though it wasn't ever seen or mentioned in TNG.

Yeah, I thought that too. Of course, you could argue that they knew about it in Best of both worlds pt1.

Dr Crusher has a line to the effect of:

"With our recent experiences in nanotechnology it might be possible to introduce a destructive breed of nanite into the borg"

Just because we didn't see it, doesn't mean they didn't know about it. ;)
 
Personally I preferred the more gradual surgical assimilation of Picard as opposed to the instant assimilation facilitated by the nanoprobes. I just found the former far more chilling.
 
Well, we see in Dark Frontier that the Borg still do massive surgical assimilation (removed limbs, etc.) after the nanoprobes do the initial pacifying of the target.
 
How did the first Borg come about?

JDW

Likely, the Borg as an archetype are similar to the Frankenstein monster. So it is not hard to believe that they created themselves over many years of self modification.

Others on this board have postulated that they were created by Dekker/V'ger in TMP
 
. . .And who knew about nanites? Picard did!

Why did Picard know about nanotechnology? Because Wesley Crusher just had to make some in an earlier episode.

The Borg became far more efficient assimilating machines thanks to WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!!

Stupid kid. . .:guffaw:

You laugh at the end of your statement, but I really did see this as a legit idea. The assimilation process seemed to change from BBW to Voyager, maybe what they learned from Picard was part of the reason.
 
Except that we saw flashbacks to the assimilation of Annika Hansen's family -- which occurred before BoBW -- and it looked the same as the "modern" post-FC assimilation process. Sometimes you just have to accept that dramatic license is being used and a fictional concept is being refined along the way.
 
Except that we saw flashbacks to the assimilation of Annika Hansen's family -- which occurred before BoBW -- and it looked the same as the "modern" post-FC assimilation process. Sometimes you just have to accept that dramatic license is being used and a fictional concept is being refined along the way.

Damn, you're right about Annika's family. I could further justify it by saying that 7 is misremembering things and adding modern elements to hazy memories.

Of course, you're also right that it's really just dramatic license. Sometimes I like to imagine these things for fun though. And for all we know the writer's who first mentioned Borg related nanites may have gotten the idea from the Wesley episode.
 
To be sure, Picard, too, was turned grey through the injection of something nasty. It was simply done after he had been abducted, not immediately as part of the abduction process itself. Apparently, the Borg wanted to chat with an un-nanited Picard for a while before proceeding...

Probably because, with the exception of Picard, the Borg only assimilated technology on TNG.

Naah. Q merely said that they were interested in Picard's technology and uninterested in Picard's crew. Which sorta puts our heroes in their place.

Timo Saloniemi
 
To be sure, Picard, too, was turned grey through the injection of something nasty. It was simply done after he had been abducted, not immediately as part of the abduction process itself. Apparently, the Borg wanted to chat with an un-nanited Picard for a while before proceeding...

I just mentioned this in a similar thread. I've contented myself with the notion that those are indeed nanoprobes being injected into the good Captain in the "color-robbing sequence."
 
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