The Eugenics Wars and WW III prevented the renaming of Leningrad back to St. Petersburg. By the time all that was over, no one gave any thought to renaming that city.
Whatever happened to the characters after TUC/GEN?
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A name can lose its connotations and/or take on new ones. A hero who saved the city from Augment attacks/rescued victims may have also been named something else Lenin. The city was re-christened in his or her honor.
Kirk he died in Generations doing what he does: saving lives.
Spock he was sent back in time to a parallel world where he died of old age.
McCoy was ancient when the Ent-D launched, so likely just died in his bed of old age.
Scotty survived into the TNG-era by surviving in a transporter buffer for several decades. When he left the Ent-D behind, they gave him a shuttlecraft, so he likely had a few more adventures before retiring.
Sulu had command of the Excelsior, had an off-screen family with a daughter on the Enterprise-B in Generations. What happened to him after the Excelsior is anyone's guess.
Chekov was last seen on the Enterprise-B in Generations, but I believe his descendant was President of the Federation in PIC S3. We hear him telling everyone to stay away from Earth.
Uhura was last seen in TUC, we don't know what happened to her.
Chael was last seen at Starfleet Command on Earth in TVH.
Rand was last seen with Sulu on the Excelsior in TUC.
The Enterprise was blown to bits in TSFS.
The HMS Bounty (Klingon Bird of Prey) crashed into San Francisco Bay at the end of TVH. It was later seen at the fleet museum in PIC S3.
The Enterprise-A was repaired and placed in the fleet museum as revealed in PIC S3.
The Enterprise-B and her crew... all we have is what we saw in Generations.
Pfft. Fake news.
You know, the more I think about it the more I think Saavik could’ve been an extraordinary character after we last saw her. I mean she could have had a normal boring life. Why shouldn’t she—that’s most of us. She could have had a child with a Spock (whether he knew it or not), or they could’ve gotten together in the decades after—who knows what life/family Spock lost becoming stranded in the Kelvin Universe? She could have had adventures on her own ship, or defected to Romulus in search of her parentage. Maybe this was part of Spock’s 90-year friendship with Pardek and Reunification. Heck, that nameless Vulcan behind Bateson in “Cause and Effect” might have been her, played by another actress—would be funny given Rebecca Howe originated the role.
Any thoughts how you see the character going?
Any thoughts how you see the character going?
The original plan was for Kirstie Alley to appear as Saavik behind Kelsey Grammer as Captain Bateson, but it didn't happen because of scheduling conflicts. Too bad. It would've been cool.
I don't think they made the Lieutenant standing behind Bateson a Vulcan, though. Not much reason to if it wasn't going to be a known character. According to Memory Alpha, she was wearing Saavik's uniform from Star Trek III, though.
Woah—Mandela effect. All this time I thought she was a Vulcan. Maybe it was the expression/uniform on an SD screen.
I like to go with Gods and Men, and Renegades, for my Chekov and Uhura endings.
Remember when they were writing that story for Season 7 of TNG where Chekov had been a POW on some planet and was going to derail peace talks by using the Enterprise to attack the capital
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We know most of it...
Kirk "dies" at the Enterprise-B launch, but then REALLY dies on Veridian III.
Spock continues to serve as a top Federation diplomat, heavily involved with the evacuation of the Romulans in the leadup to Hobus, and (for as far as anyone knows) died trying to stop the spread of the supernova.
Scotty was going to into retirement, ended up in a transporter buffer for decades, and was last seen living comfortably in the 2360's.
Uhura went on to command the USS Leondegrance, which was an Academy training craft and was serving as Captain as late as Picard's Academy days, as he had served under her on a training exercise.
McCoy was alive and well when the Enterprise-D launched.
Chekov we don't know much of what he was actually doing after the launch of the Enterprise-B, but he had a child who would go on to become Federation President by 2402.
Sulu we also know relatively little about, he was in command of Excelsior and started a family.
Kirk "dies" at the Enterprise-B launch, but then REALLY dies on Veridian III.
Spock continues to serve as a top Federation diplomat, heavily involved with the evacuation of the Romulans in the leadup to Hobus, and (for as far as anyone knows) died trying to stop the spread of the supernova.
Scotty was going to into retirement, ended up in a transporter buffer for decades, and was last seen living comfortably in the 2360's.
Uhura went on to command the USS Leondegrance, which was an Academy training craft and was serving as Captain as late as Picard's Academy days, as he had served under her on a training exercise.
McCoy was alive and well when the Enterprise-D launched.
Chekov we don't know much of what he was actually doing after the launch of the Enterprise-B, but he had a child who would go on to become Federation President by 2402.
Sulu we also know relatively little about, he was in command of Excelsior and started a family.
What were their endings there?
I don’t put much stock in the Uhura Leondegrance placard. Lots of canon background text was contradicted over the years. Plus it’s too cute where Picard served under her, and on the Reliant, yet had no idea who Kirk was in TNG or gave much fanfare to Scotty. It’s just canon porn by crew having a good time. This may be controversial but I don’t believe in the giant duck on the Enterprise-D either.
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She certainly should have been. TWOK in particular seemed to be setting her up as a breakout character, and I’ve always thought it a shame that didn’t happen. Even more so if you include the background posited for her by Vonda McIntyre (in which case, if she defected to Romulus as you suggest to find her parent, I would imagine it would be to kill him or her).
I remember that idea,which I hated. I may be sentimental, but don’t turn a long-beloved OG character into the bad guy! (Take note, Mission: Impossible…)Remember when they were writing that story for Season 7 of TNG where Chekov had been a POW on some planet and was going to derail peace talks by using the Enterprise to attack the capital
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Uhura has a long career as a Captain etc, and eventually married Stonn of all people, who now seems a lovely guy.
Chekov (under another name, since by this time Paramount had cracked down so the makers of Renegades had to change all the names, but it was obvious who was who) sacrifices himself crashing a shuttle into a Section 31 base at the heart of an evil conspiracy.
Chekov (under another name, since by this time Paramount had cracked down so the makers of Renegades had to change all the names, but it was obvious who was who) sacrifices himself crashing a shuttle into a Section 31 base at the heart of an evil conspiracy.
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Weirdly, “Stonn” was autocorrected to “Aston”. Hopefully fixed now.
The Uhura thing is more problematic than that. Her 5 year mission in the Small Magellanic Cloud mentioned is over 200,000 light years away, putting the Leondegrance farther out than even Voyager. Even if the Leondegrance was going at superfast TOS speeds instead of the slower TNG/Voyager speeds (not many know this, but TOS speeds were established at 1,000 light years in 11.5 hours in TOS: That Which Survives, meaning stuff like ST5 and the center of the galaxy was reasonable, it's only TNG and Voyager that made speeds slower so that Voyager can get "lost" in its own galaxy), Discovery establishes that no one's conducted major exploration outside the galaxy (which Uhura having a 5 year mission in a cloud outside the galaxy would contradict)
Unification has entered the thread.
AFAIK the only non-historical reference to the USSR in Trek is SS Tsiolkovsky's dedication plaque in The Naked Now, which says she was launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome, USSR (now Kazakhstan). It's barely legible on screen, but it is a point of evidence.
In-universe, it could be that the USSR was never formally dissolved, perhaps with the Eugenics Wars interfering, or that Gorbachev was successful in transitioning the Soviet state to a more open society that remained united into the 24th Century.
Either way, Star Trek isn't our universe!
The ongoing Temporal Cold War makes it such that it’s all our universe. Any inconsistency is hand waived away as a momentary blip. If we revisited that Tsiolkovsky in an episode or Short Trek or whatever today, it would say Kazakhstan or Eurasia or something and everything else (tech, characters, etc) would be the same.
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