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What kind of technologies would you like to see one day made real?

Sure, but I highly doubt you wouldn't restore yourself to youth and health if you could do so at no cost to yourself or others.
There is always a cost and it's my choice to make. I chose abnegation and reject the tyranny of the ego. I'm sure there will be those who choose otherwise should it come to pass. Filling the cosmos with human beings just for the sake of it sounds like an infestation. The Fermi Paradox suggests it won't happen unless we are the first ones.
 
Why retain any fraction of senescence whatsoever? That's like having only a slight cough or a little cancer.

Why not all of it?

Average American life expectancy is a mere 77 years. 154 or 231 years in perfect health would be better, but why stop there if you still enjoy life?

It'd be great compared to the present but is far short of what's possible.

I'd prefer no signs of senescence at all.
All of your assumptions are based on "Immortality" is possible.

My assumptions are based on "Immortality" is impossible.
But extending a persons life-span & quality of life while aging is possible.

"Blind age extension" doesn't exist. All aging research is actually pursuing extended healthspan with extended lifespan coming as a welcome side effect; you extend lifespan by extending healthspan. Retarding senescence means restoring people to health at the most fundamental level. The idea that we'd be decrepit for centuries is a total misconception.
That's my goal, to be functional for as long as possible, while having minimal time where our bodies are significantly weakened.
But my premise is based on the fact that "We will age, no matter what". How fast, how much, what quality of life will we have is the variables we will get to play with.

The assumption that we will be immortal and forever young is not a concept I believe is possible for most people.

The Augments are fictional characters created by a nonsensical fictional process envisioned by nonscientist writers with a profound bias against genetic engineering born of profound ignorance and illogical comparisons to historical pseudoscience. In reality, being able to run thrice as fast as Usain Bolt or lift thousands of kilograms or spend hours underwater on a single breath won't automatically turn people into megalomaniacs.
True. It's the other factors like increased aggression that will cause that along with environmental factors.

Even within the fictional universe of Star Trek, enhanced humans such as Julian Bashir, La'an Noonien Singh, Zefram Cochrane, and Flint avoid sociopathy, and there are numerous benevolent aliens with superhuman abilities and superlongevity, such as Pelia and Dax (and all Vulcans to some extent).
True.

Why stop there, and why should some have better vision than others?
Natural variation in the genetic edting process so that we aren't perfectly identical.
 
An ambition to live long enough to witness the heat death of the universe sounds very tedious. Proposals to avoid the consequences of entropy include uploading the consciousness into a VR and varying the clock rate, but what's the point? People need to read Marcus Aurelius and other stoical musings. I wasn't alive for the first 13.8 billion years and I won't be alive for however long the universe continues to exist after I cease to. This red thread between nothingness and eternity is content with what it has. End of line...
 
I chose abnegation
What abnegation have you chosen?
and reject the tyranny of the ego. I'm sure there will be those who choose otherwise should it come to pass. Filling the cosmos with human beings just for the sake of it sounds like an infestation.
Not "just for the sake of it." Why shouldn't we explore space? Do you want the observable universe to remain lifeless?
The Fermi Paradox suggests it won't happen unless we are the first ones.
Or perhaps intelligent life is just so rare that it arises less than once per galaxy, supercluster, or Webb volume on average.
But my premise is based on the fact that "We will age, no matter what". How fast, how much, what quality of life will we have is the variables we will get to play with.

The assumption that we will be immortal and forever young is not a concept I believe is possible for most people.
Nothing in physics prevents senescence from being reversed indefinitely. The human body contains a finite amount of cells with a finite amount of functions and dysfunctions, so given enough time and effort, it is certainly physically possible to fully reverse engineer our biology and maintain it in total youthfulness indefinitely.
True. It's the other factors like increased aggression that will cause that along with environmental factors.
Right, so don't engineer aggression into people (and perhaps even engineer it out) and create positive environments.
Natural variation in the genetic editing process so that we aren't perfectly identical.
Different personalities and appearances, yes, but not arbitrarily limiting people's abilities. Individual adults will be able to genetically reengineer themselves to customize their own traits, and biological enhancement is just the beginning. Even the most advanced genetic engineering pales in comparison to the potential of postbiological substrates.
 
An ambition to live long enough to witness the heat death of the universe sounds very tedious. Proposals to avoid the consequences of entropy include uploading the consciousness into a VR and varying the clock rate, but what's the point?
To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before.
People need to read Marcus Aurelius and other stoical musings.
I have.
I wasn't alive for the first 13.8 billion years and I won't be alive for however long the universe continues to exist after I cease to. This red thread between nothingness and eternity is content with what it has. End of line...
Again, I'm sure I'll die eventually, but if I could see the distant future and other planets and galaxies before I do, I would.
 
Nothing in physics prevents senescence from being reversed indefinitely. The human body contains a finite amount of cells with a finite amount of functions and dysfunctions, so given enough time and effort, it is certainly physically possible to fully reverse engineer our biology and maintain it in total youthfulness indefinitely.
If you found the modern equivalent of the "Fountain of Youth"; by all means, you'll be the world's richest man.
I don't think you can modify a existing human being through Genetic Engineering to attain immortality in the way you want.

At best, you would have to genetically engineer a creature from scratch to get that, you can't modify a existing template of humanity (Homo Sapien) w/o modifying it so much, that it might as well be a different species.

Again, I'm sure I'll die eventually, but if I could see the distant future and other planets and galaxies before I do, I would.
I'm with you on visiting the distant future & seeing other planets & galaxies.

But having a life-span that is immortal or "Q-Like" where you can live until the end of the Universe?

That might be boring unless you have people that you really care about & love to share it with.

Just being alone in the Universe as the last immortal would suck.
 
Transhumanists seem not to understand that individuals might want to make other choices. I'm screaming while I still have a mouth to do so.
Obviously choice is important.
Nobody should be forced to be modified if they don't want to.
That should always be a personal/individual choice.
 
I don't think you can modify an existing human being through genetic engineering to attain immortality in the way you want.

At best, you would have to genetically engineer a creature from scratch to get that; you can't modify an existing template of humanity (Homo sapiens) without modifying it so much that it might as well be a different species.
You certainly can! Absolutely nothing in physics prevents an existing human from achieving an indefinite healthy lifespan. FDA-approved gene therapies currently in use include:
  • Axicabtagene ciloleucel (Yescarta) for adults who have certain types of large B-cell lymphoma that don't respond to treatment.

  • Onasemnogene abeparvovec-xioi (Zolgensma) can be used to treat children under age two who have spinal muscular atrophy.

  • Talimogene laherparepvec (Imlygic) is used to treat certain types of tumors in people with melanomas that recur after surgery.

  • Tisagenlecleucel (Kymriah) for people up to 25 years old who have follicular lymphoma that has recurred or isn't responding to treatment.

  • Voretigene neparvovec-rzyl (Luxturna) for people one year old and older who have a rare inherited type of vision loss that can lead to blindness.

  • Exagamglogene autotemcel (Casgevy) for treating people twelve years and older with sickle cell disease or beta thalassemia who meet certain criteria.

  • Delandistrogene moxeparvovec-rokl (Elevidys) for children ages four through five years who have Duchenne muscular dystrophy and a flawed DMD gene.

  • Lovotibeglogene autotemcel (Lyfgenia) for people twelve years and older with sickle cell disease who meet certain criteria.

  • Valoctocogene roxaparvovec-rvox (Roctavian) for adults with severe hemophilia A who meet certain criteria.

  • Beremagene geperpavec-svdt (Vyjuvek) for treating wounds in people six months and older who have dystrophic epidermolysis bullosa, a rare inherited condition that causes fragile, blistering skin.

  • Betibeglogene autotemcel (Zynteglo) for people with beta thalassemia who need regular transfusions of red blood cells.
Future gene therapies will reverse aging.

Over two decades ago, the biomedical gerontologist (and registered biostasist) Aubrey de Grey proposed the development of strategies for engineered negligible senescence (SENS) and defined seven categories of aging: chromosomal and mitochondrial mutations, lysosomal and extracellular aggregates, extracellular protein crosslinking, cancer, and cellular senescence.

A couple years ago, Carlos López-Otín, Maria A. Blasco, Linda Partridge, Manuel Serrano, and Guido Kroemer proposed a dozen categories: genomic instability, telomeric attrition, epigenetic alterations, dysproteostasis, disabled macroautophagy, deregulated nutrient sensing, mitochondrial dysfunction, cellular senescence, stem cell exhaustion, altered intercellular communication, chronic inflammation, and dysbiosis.

All of the causes of aging (however precisely many there are) are certainly physically possible to understand and fix faster than they occur, enabling indefinite healthy lifespans. These modifications could be made without changing people in other ways (but I want to change in other ways). Though this may cost trillions and may not happen for centuries, nothing in the laws of physics precludes it from happening eventually.

Functional immortality could also be much more easily achieved through therapeutic cloning and tissue replacement culminating in somatoreplacement (whole body replacement), which some researchers—chiefly including neuroscientist Jean Hébert of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine and ARPA-H—think could be achieved for only a few billion dollars of research and development. In this way, aging could be completely bypassed without actually understanding it at all.

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The most advanced form of biological life extension would apply molecular nanotechnology to continuously monitor and repair the body's systems.

Cyborgization and eventually completely postbiological substrates are other options. Realistically, starfaring beings who survive for eons won't be biological.
I'm with you on visiting the distant future and seeing other planets and galaxies.

But having a lifespan that is immortal or "Q-like" where you can live until the end of the Universe?

That might be boring unless you have people that you really care about and love to share it with.
Again, the goal is to be able to choose how long you live, and, yes, I highly recommend having people that you really care about and love. Being alone as the last immortal is a tired trope and ridiculously unlikely. Why would only one person become immortal or survive until the end?
Transhumanists seem not to understand that individuals might want to make other choices. I'm screaming while I still have a mouth to do so.
Oh, we understand. We just don't believe people when they say they accept disease, disability, and death while usually taking full advantage of the most advanced healthcare they can get. Even amongst the most demented death cultists—the clergy and their secular equivalent, bioethicists—the latest, most advanced healthcare suddenly becomes a top personal priority after a serious diagnosis. The most aggressively antihuman ideologues such as John Hagee and Leon Kass are repeatedly found to pursue the best that medical technology can offer for their ailing selves and loved ones; "God" or Marcus Aurelius isn't enough when you or your daughter or wife have cancer. If you suddenly found yourself in a youthful, healthy state again, I simply don't believe you'd want to revert to being old and sickly again. "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" is an excellent story, but it is just a story; being converted into a giant amoeba is a ludicrously unlikely scenario.

Anesthesia and organ transplantation were once derided and feared as "unnatural," but those complaints evaporated at warp speed once they went from hypothetical to actual and the undeniable benefits were immediately realized. There has never been a mass rejection of any medical advancement, and I do not think there ever will be one. As they always have, social and religious conventions will continue to yield to scientific progress.

Almost no one really wants brain fog, memory loss, dementia, cancer, immunodeficiency, hormonal deficiency, heart disease, atherosclerosis, sarcopenia, osteoporosis, arthritis, incontinence, failing senses, liver spots, thinning hair and skin, fatigue, sexual dysfunction, nor any of the other insults of aging. There is nothing "beautiful" nor "noble" nor "necessary" about any of this, just as there as nothing positive about pneumonia, bronchitis, syphilis, typhus, muscular dystrophy, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, necrotizing fasciitis, nor Ebola. Telling people that they just need to accept aging is actually no different from telling people that they just need to accept cancer.

When people can feel and look twenty again, with very few exceptions, they will. Even those who gave the most impassioned speeches in favor of "the circle of life" and against "transhumanist arrogance" will see others simply looking and feeler better than they have in decades without "losing their humanity" and will rather quickly join them. Biostasis provides people today with at least an infinitesimal chance of seeing that future.
 
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Well, thank goodness I don't have a family forcing me to drink the transhumanist Kool-Aid and I can make my own choices. I can visit a procedurally generated cosmos should I want and such simulations get better as computing power increases over time. Such simulations also have the benefit of not despoiling alien ecosystems or perverting the development of alien civilizations. It wouldn't satisfy those with the Temüjin gene, obviously.

Anyone up for a game of Fizzbin?
 
Well, thank goodness I don't have a family forcing me to drink the transhumanist Kool-Aid and I can make my own choices.
You can't make your own choices about aging, disease, and how long you can live. No one can yet. Until we can, most people will continue to drink the cishumanist Kool-Aid and remain under the pro-aging trance, romanticizing disease, disability, and death in learned helplessness. Once science begins to reverse the aging process and afford people with radically improved cognition and physicality, however, this will rapidly change. Just as no one mourns the eradication of typhus, syphilis, scurvy, smallpox, and bubonic plague, so will no one mourn the eradication of the common cold, pneumonia, blindness, depression, addiction, cancer, and aging with all its myriad insults (dementia, macular degeneration, osteoporosis, sarcopenia, incontinence, and so on...).
I can visit a procedurally generated cosmos should I want and such simulations get better as computing power increases over time.
Yes, and eventually even to the point of becoming indistinguishable from physical reality.
Such simulations also have the benefit of not despoiling alien ecosystems or perverting the development of alien civilizations.
There is no indication of any alien ecosystems nor civilizations anywhere near us, and there are certainly far more than enough sterile worlds to colonize (and we may not focus on planets at all).
It wouldn't satisfy those with the Temüjin gene, obviously.
A compassionate desire to free all sentient life from involuntary suffering and drudgery is the very opposite of megalomania, sociopathy, and a mythical "Temüjin gene."

The negative utilitarian transhumanist philosopher David Pearce is one of the most peaceful and kindhearted individuals imaginable. He's mentioned being depressed by his attempts to mentally grapple with the immensity of involuntary suffering by both humans and animals across the globe throughout history and at any given moment and has dedicated his life to developing a theoretical framework for its eventual dissolution. He is the anti-Khan.

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Why, specifically?
We haven't seen other creatures IRL that are "Immortal" in the truest sense of the word.

A creature that can remain forever young, never appear to be aging for millions of years and are still around.

You claim it's possible, I like that you're trying.

But until it happens, I have HUGE doubts that it's even possible.

No matter the amount of genetic engineering, tinkering, etc.

Proof is on you to make it happen, so until it does, MASSIVE DOUBTS are going to be shown your way.
 
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