What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Farscape One]

controversial star trek opinions: joined trills get TWO birthday parties a year.

You know what?

I completely agree with this. And if they don't, they should.

And if we want to go crazy... another birthday party for however many hosts the symbiote has had previously. In theory, a party every single month.

(Which is actually what I married into... including me, every single month has a birthday. Or several. Except October. I'm kind of glad October is birthday free... Halloween deserves the FULL attention. )

 

[cooleddie74]

The last time the Mirror Universe was even remotely worth visiting.

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[Lord Garth]

The last time the Mirror Universe was even remotely worth visiting.

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Hard Disagree!

 

[BillJ]

Okay, I have no qualms with that, but what does that have to do with my personal grudges?

Those are my choice, nobody elses.

Because folks here want you to be better. It isn't healthy for you to hang onto grudges.

 

[137th Gebirg]

What's wrong with that?

 

[DarrenTR1970]

What's wrong with that?

I'd like to know
'Cause here I go agaaaaain!

 

[Tallguy]

I'd like to know
'Cause here I go agaaaaain!

That was silly.

 

[Farscape One]

The last time the Mirror Universe was even remotely worth visiting.

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COMPLETELY AGREED!!!!

It was a terrible idea to revisit the Mirror Universe in the current era.

 

[CoveTom]

Because folks here want you to be better. It isn't healthy for you to hang onto grudges.

I dunno. I don't much care. I don't say that in a mean way. And in an abstract Christian brotherly love sort of way, sure, I want everyone to be happy and healthy. But here on this forum? I really just want to discuss Star Trek. Which isn't happening a ton in this thread for some reason.

 

[BillJ]

I dunno. I don't much care. I don't say that in a mean way. And in an abstract Christian brotherly love sort of way, sure, I want everyone to be happy and healthy. But here on this forum? I really just want to discuss Star Trek. Which isn't happening a ton in this thread for some reason.

I think of us as something of a family. Kind words can sometimes do wonders for a person’s outlook on life.

 

[Unicron]

The DSC use of cloaks bugs me 100 times more than ENT's ever did. Those Klingons used a cloak on a massive vessel in the biggest battle Starfleet had fought in years and just ten years later - cloaks are a huge surprise. At least with ENT you can say "it's been over a century, and the Romulans disappeared and went into isolation for a hundred years so anyone who'd remember is probably long dead."

Ten years, though? Just how much is Starfleet going to classify and lock in a vault away from eyeballs just so continuity isn't screwed up?

For my part, I like how FASA handled cloaks. They were a still experimental technology that were only used on specific types of Romulan vessels (such as cruisers and scouts) based on their utility, and the disadvantages (chiefly the power drain) kept them from being a more decisive weapon. The Klingons got a relative handful of cloaks and plasma weapons during the technology exchanges, but seemed to have a mixed opinion on both.

Starfleet made a number of attempts to capture cloaks for study, but the one captured by the Enterprise in "The Enterprise Incident" was kind of the rare success. Such missions were very risky because Romulan vessels typically booby trapped their cloaks to explode if stolen, and one Starfleet vessel testing a cloak was lost when it couldn't be deactivated. The ship vanished and never reappeared and no one could track it.

I'm in a similar vein as you, I get that modern producers want to use the more famous elements of Treknology. But they could do it far more consistently, in theory.
Perhaps the next series would be an improvement if you and I got hired to run things!

I also think the Federation banning research and application of cloaks is rather silly, especially in a context where they have no problems using holography for practically the same ends. There are plenty of logical reasons why they wouldn't pursue it to the same extent.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The last time the Mirror Universe was even remotely worth visiting.

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Actually, you have to go all the way back to Mirror Mirror for that.

 

[fireproof78]

Perhaps the next series would be an improvement if you and I got hired to run things!

Unicron for president (of Star Trek!)

 

[knightgrace]

If one can't have fun with Star Trek, what's the point?

 

[Unicron]

Unicron for president (of Star Trek!)

My head canon will become the most awesome new canon.

 

[CoveTom]

The DSC use of cloaks bugs me 100 times more than ENT's ever did. Those Klingons used a cloak on a massive vessel in the biggest battle Starfleet had fought in years and just ten years later - cloaks are a huge surprise. At least with ENT you can say "it's been over a century, and the Romulans disappeared and went into isolation for a hundred years so anyone who'd remember is probably long dead."

Ten years, though? Just how much is Starfleet going to classify and lock in a vault away from eyeballs just so continuity isn't screwed up?

Hey, in TOS, Kirk and Spock acted like Romulan cloaking devices were brand new technology twice. First, in "Balance of Terror" and later in "The Enterprise Incident." Now, you could headcanon that as the second cloaking device being a "new and improved" model or somesuch, but the way the dialogue is written it really sounds like they've never seen a cloaking device before in two separate episodes.

And, if I'm not mistaken, cloaks on Klingon ships were never a thing until TSFS, when they decided to change from Romulans to Klingons as the bad guys but kept the same ship. Hence, the Klingons suddenly having a Bird of Prey, which had been a Romulan thing up until then.

In short, the whole history of Klingon and Romulan ships and technology is quite the mess.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

In The Enterprise Incident the line was "I believe the Romulans have developed a cloaking device which renders our tracking sensors useless", so I think it's the 'tracking sensors' part that's new, as they were tracking them in Balance of Terror. They definitely knew about the cloaking device as they'd been sent on a mission to steal one.

 

[StarTrek1701]

In The Enterprise Incident the line was "I believe the Romulans have developed a cloaking device which renders our tracking sensors useless", so I think it's the 'tracking sensors' part that's new, as they were tracking them in Balance of Terror. They definitely knew about the cloaking device as they'd been sent on a mission to steal one.

Yet over a hundred years later Starfleet couldn't develop anything better and cvcked out to the Rommies despite having the upper hand.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Starfleet could develop phasing cloaks better than anything the Romulans had, they just chose not to because peace with the Romulans was more valuable than being able to sneak around.

 

[1001001]

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