Watching Event Horizon again. OK one little detail that gets me.

[Gingerbread Demon]

I like this movie but one small detail gets me all the time. What's the big deal about the gravity drive crossing into other dimensions to do its job?

Would they have made such a fuss if it was like a hyperdrive from Star Wars, or use warp space like in Star Trek.

So it crosses several dimensions why did everyone act like this was some big bad thing you should never do?

Yes on this trip it did stuff up and bring back a hitch hiker of sorts but if it was working properly no one would have known would they?

 

[Tosk]

If I recall correctly the non-Sam Neill people were more surprised that anything could travel faster than light. What is the specific dialogue you're referring to? ("...why did everyone act like this was some big bad thing you should never do?")

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

If I recall correctly the non-Sam Neill people were more surprised that anything could travel faster than light. What is the specific dialogue you're referring to? ("...why did everyone act like this was some big bad thing you should never do?")

I think it's the whole idea that the ship landed in hell that bugs me. It went there then returns 7 years later... Of all the dimensions to land in it just felt cheesy

 

[Tosk]

Of all the dimensions to land in

For all we know, "hell" and here are the only two dimensions in the Event Horizon universe.

Or maybe it's not even that, maybe any dimensional travel causes horrific chaos on anything that passes through.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

For all we know, "hell" and here are the only two dimensions in the Event Horizon universe.

Or maybe it's not even that, maybe any dimensional travel causes horrific chaos on anything that passes through.

I guess so. The first 20 or so minutes is great but by the middle and last 20 minutes or such I couldn't wait for it to end.

 

[Anwar]

The big deal was that Sam Neill's character admitted that when the drive folded space it would go somewhere (even if just for an instant) before emerging at the other end of the space fold and he never bothered trying to probe in there to see where this other place was and if it was dangerous or not.

It turned out to be VERY dangerous, so him not bothering checking first technically caused the whole mess.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I think it's the spikes. If you design an engine with spikes, it's going to do messed up things.

 

[DonIago]

I still want a desktop-sized reproduction of that engine. And i love what the opening titles do with the Paramount logo.

Otherwise, it's essentially The Shining in space, though.

As to the OP...is it generally known that the engine operated by opening a portal to...elsewhere?...if not, that is a bit mind-blowing to consider, especially since in the early scene with the wormhole demonstration there's no indication that the ship spends any significant time anywhere else while the engine is operating.

 

[Mage]

I think it's the spikes. If you design an engine with spikes, it's going to do messed up things.

Well ofcourse but it looks a lot less cool otherwise. I mean, can you imagine how awesome Engineering on the Enterprise would be with those spikes?

 

[Sketcher]

It's a horror movie?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I still want a desktop-sized reproduction of that engine. And i love what the opening titles do with the Paramount logo.

Otherwise, it's essentially The Shining in space, though.

As to the OP...is it generally known that the engine operated by opening a portal to...elsewhere?...if not, that is a bit mind-blowing to consider, especially since in the early scene with the wormhole demonstration there's no indication that the ship spends any significant time anywhere else while the engine is operating.

Now I wonder if the whole mess was some kind of weird time thing... That whole engine room was weird looking and I wonder if something had influenced the design of the whole thing. Sam Neill's character being influenced by outside forces even before the ship had launched in that weird design as if it had already happened?

Yes and a desktop model of that would be fricking fantasic. I'm sure there are models out there if you look, I thought I saw something a few years ago.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Well ofcourse but it looks a lot less cool otherwise. I mean, can you imagine how awesome Engineering on the Enterprise would be with those spikes?

Maybe they experimented with warp core spikes in the Mirror Universe?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Hey found your model......... If you have access to 3d printing

event horizon engine

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[DonIago]

Hey found your model......... If you have access to 3d printing

event horizon engine

l➤ event horizon engine 3d models ✅. ... horror history in hollywood. ...it is called "The Event Horizon" of the same name as the film event horizon so feel free to use this model as much as you want. i don't own the event horizon or the film, credit goes to their respective owners. ......

www.stlfinder.com

I do not...but for something like this, I might phone-a-friend...

Huh, the rings do appear to be capable of movement as well, though 'manually'.

 

[thribs]

I really thought the detail you were going to mention is that it's bascially Discovery. A ship with a experimental form of travel which goes to a "hell like" dimension and gets Jason Issacs killed.

 

[DonIago]

Now I wonder if the whole mess was some kind of weird time thing... That whole engine room was weird looking and I wonder if something had influenced the design of the whole thing. Sam Neill's character being influenced by outside forces even before the ship had launched in that weird design as if it had already happened?

Yes and a desktop model of that would be fricking fantasic. I'm sure there are models out there if you look, I thought I saw something a few years ago.

Perhaps something from 'Hell' (and it always annoyed me that Chaos and Hell were equated in this movie) made telepathic contact with Weir and 'inspired' him to develop the engine?

Oh hey, Weir's another Sybok!

Much like Jack Nicholson's portrayal of Jack Torrance in "The Shining", I got the sense that Weir was a little unbalanced from jump. Understandable given his wife's suicide and all, and perhaps if Event Horizon had never returned he'd always just be someone who seemed "a little haunted", again understandably, by his past trauma, but it's easy to question the wisdom of sending him to the ship in his condition, though my opinions on that are obviously influenced by the fact that doing so turned out to be a terrible, terrible idea.

That said, it also seems as though everyone from the rescue ship also had their own traumas going on. I can think of things in my past that the EH might have tapped into, but I don't think I have anything on the scale of what these people went through prior to the mission.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Perhaps something from 'Hell' (and it always annoyed me that Chaos and Hell were equated in this movie) made telepathic contact with Weir and 'inspired' him to develop the engine?

Oh hey, Weir's another Sybok!

So kind of a loop ....... External forces from "hell" give scientist design for weird engine....
They build weird engine and it gets stuck in hell before returning to our universe but while there they send the message to design the ship

 

[DonIago]

There doesn't have to be a time travel element. There's no evidence that Sybok learning about 'God' is a paradox, after all.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

There doesn't have to be a time travel element. There's no evidence that Sybok learning about 'God' is a paradox, after all.

A loop doesn't always mean time travel does it?

I mean loop as in events unfolding the way they did

"Hell" gives him the weird designs for the ship
He builds the ship and it goes to hell where things turn to shit
Ship returns with hellish forces onboard still
He joins rescue team to find the ship wanted him all along ending his loop

 

[Anwar]

Much like Jack Nicholson's portrayal of Jack Torrance in "The Shining", I got the sense that Weir was a little unbalanced from jump. Understandable given his wife's suicide and all, and perhaps if Event Horizon had never returned he'd always just be someone who seemed "a little haunted", again understandably, by his past trauma, but it's easy to question the wisdom of sending him to the ship in his condition, though my opinions on that are obviously influenced by the fact that doing so turned out to be a terrible, terrible idea.

That said, it also seems as though everyone from the rescue ship also had their own traumas going on. I can think of things in my past that the EH might have tapped into, but I don't think I have anything on the scale of what these people went through prior to the mission.

Did they ever explain WHY his wife just killed herself?