Spoilers Walking Dead Season 8 discussion and spoilers.

[Morpheus 02]

I've been debating if I want to watch last season and the new one, so I was wondering, what is the overall opinion on Season 7? I actually started to watch the premiere on Netflix this morning, but then changed my mind. I know I heard a lot of bad things about the premiere, but I'm not sure how things went after that.

For me the season 7 premiere was "bad" in that my favorite character was killed, and in a surprise way (for me). I think it was a very good season...loved the introduction of the Kingdom, and Carol & Morgan's continued interactions...some other sad moments....I liked season 7, and look forward to season 8, and seeing more of that fallout/consequences

 

[Jayson1]

I liked the season opener a great deal. It had lots of great action and I liked how it felt like a mission and not just random attacks or violence that happens while your trying to survive. Also I think we need to see the next few episodes before judging to harshly because I think we have just seen the first step of their plan and we will learn more in the next episodes. I also like Karl and the Muslim man and I think we haven't seen the last of him. It also had tons of great visuals and scope IMO. I think I will feel cheated if the old man Rick stuff turns out to be just a dream though I think Michonne should have looked older but maybe they didn't want to do that simply because they want her to still look attractive enough if the show, moves to that time period on a regular basis in future seasons. You most likely don't want you characters walking around every week in old age makeup.

Jason

 

[Trekker4747]

I thought the episode was pretty decent and nice set-up for how I think the season will go. (I suspect AOW will be over by the mid-season hiatus and the second half of the season will deal with the next "threat" or arc.)

Still not sure what to expect from the "flash forwards" if it's "real" or a dream/vision Rick is having. I, as said over the summer, doubt the show will go through with the old-age makeup on their lead character for the rest of the series or "hobble" him with the limp considering he's also the lead "action guy," (Though the age, time skip, and limp would all be consistent with the comic.)

Question for those more familiar with the comic:

Who was the guy at the gas station? Seems like he's a setup to "be someone."

Though it's all part of the "show" it is a bit frustrating that it seems manufactured for Negan to escape, it seems Rick had plenty of opportunity to kill Negan right there but instead.... they shoot out the windows to The Sanctuary?

I do wonder how The Scavengers/Heapsters will work back into things, will Jadis realize her error and side back with Rick? Or will they continue to fight on the side of Negan and be another foe for our heroes to deal with down the road? The woman who plays Jadis (who cleans up very well!) was credited for the episode (that she wasn't in) and was in the entire cast meet-up on The Talking Dead so she's got to be fully contracted to be credited in an episode she's not in so she and The Scavengers must play a big role moving forward.

Along with the firing the bullets at the building instead of The Saviors, it'd seem ammunition is no longer in short supply or a scarce resource. They must have found quite the cache of it!

Interesting speculation I've seen too, some notes on how "spirtual" Rick seemed in some of the apparent "flash forwards" to later in the war where he's looking over a grave, looks teary eyed, and whispers things about mercy. Could it be Father Gabriel dies and this reignites Rick's humanity and spirituality?

 

[Random_Spock]

Good question about Father Gabriel. He does seem as if he might be the next to go.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

i think Gabriel is going to be either Lucielled or zombie chow next week.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

No. Sensible plots and story lines, yes.

Disappointed as a major fan of TWD. 100th episode a meandering slow mess? Shitting pants. Please.

It was sensible in that no villain was going to be an easy death in the premiere episode of a season, but the opening of the war required a face-off between Rick and Negan.

I've been debating if I want to watch last season and the new one, so I was wondering, what is the overall opinion on Season 7? I actually started to watch the premiere on Netflix this morning, but then changed my mind. I know I heard a lot of bad things about the premiere, but I'm not sure how things went after that.

About the season 7 premiere? If that's what you're referring to, some were criticizing not because of the quality, but thanks to the handling of favorite characters, when its not much different that similar events in past years.

 

[Borgminister]

They could have slaughtered him and all of his lieutenants and didn't, after all of the backstory. Comics or not, I don't buy it--for the first time, I don't buy it.

100th episode was all filler and waste, really. A "Valentine to the fans", as it were. I'm hoping for better...

 

[theenglish]

It is a bit of a shame, because it wouldn't have taken much to set up almost exactly the same scene with Negan behind a barricade or something.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ That would make him look weak to both his enemies and his allies, and his psyche has proven to be anathema to that.

 

[Push The Button]

i think Gabriel is going to be either Lucielled or zombie chow next week.

Did Gabriel have a rifle with him when he went into the trailer? If so, another opportunity to kill Negan, wasted, I'm willing to bet.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I think so. He had that rickety old bolt-action hunting rifle. Why he isn't taking one of the bigger pea-shooters that are obviously available kind of mystifies me. I guess we should be glad he decided to take up arms against others of God's creatures in the first place.

 

[Trekker4747]

It's possible Gabriel's gun is out of ammunition. (It's not like it's that God-Mode shotgun Herschel had at the end of the Second Season. )

 

[137th Gebirg]

Oh, yeah, I remember that now... Whenever did he have time to reload that thing? Tube-mag by Tardis™.

 

[Trekker4747]

He started reloading it after shooting, like, over a dozen walkers and it was enough of a break to get Rick to drag him into the truck to leave the farm.

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[Big Data]

I don't know how they can have such a rich universe and make such dull episodes. This amazes me every time. The whole episode was just bursting the barricade. Should have happened in the cold open.

 

[Big Data]

Good question about Father Gabriel. He does seem as if he might be the next to go.

Maybe he will cause Negan to have a crisis on conscience and we can debate about whether or not he is sincere for a few episodes. They need a wolf in the fold again to make things interesting. They made a mistake not keeping Merle around longer to fill this roll.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Did Gabriel have a rifle with him when he went into the trailer? If so, another opportunity to kill Negan, wasted, I'm willing to bet.

Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't just shoot Negan. The other thing is, if he figures he's doomed, should he just throw the door open and let the walkers in?

 

[Random_Spock]

Maybe he will cause Negan to have a crisis on conscience and we can debate about whether or not he is sincere for a few episodes. They need a wolf in the fold again to make things interesting. They made a mistake not keeping Merle around longer to fill this roll.

Nah I doubt that'll happen. I'll be surprised if it does though. Negan doesn't seem to have any kind of conscience.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Maybe he will cause Negan to have a crisis on conscience and we can debate about whether or not he is sincere for a few episodes. They need a wolf in the fold again to make things interesting. They made a mistake not keeping Merle around longer to fill this roll.

Merle fulfilled his usefulness (in-story), as he realized there was no way he could live with Glenn and Maggie after the entire Governor incident. Although Michonne telling him he could just return to the prison, Merle understood that he was just a negative being capable of doing one last (and first) good thing to help Daryl.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Nah I doubt that'll happen. I'll be surprised if it does though. Negan doesn't seem to have any kind of conscience.

He seemed to experience a glimmer of conscience and guilt when he fat-shamed Olivia over the "starving" comment. He seemed downright fatherly when he was with Judith. There may something in that twisted brain of his but not likely to resurface until maybe the very end.