Three Universes? - Romulan Ships - Spoilers

[USS Triumphant]

Okay, to follow this, first I need you to read my OP in another thread.

Then, note this, from Eddie Roth's thread about Star Trek D.A.C., a new movie-related video game for XBox Live:

"And since the Narada was a bit too huge to be the Romulan equivalent of the Enterprise in this one, they came up with three new Romulan ship designs based on the Narada, it appears which should be interesting to look at for the Trek Tech fans." (emphasis mine)

So, it would appear that we have three new Romulan ships in the 2258 time frame that look kinda like the Narada. But do they?

The Narada looks like she could be a design outgrowth of the chameleon squid ship the Romulans were using to masquerade as Tellerites and Andorians and such on the series Enterprise. Which means, to me, that maybe the Narada is native to what I am henceforth going to refer to as Universe B - the universe that resulted from Future Guy, Crewman Daniels, and other actors in the Temporal Cold War monkeying around in the 2140s-50s. This is different from Universe A (or Prime), which is the universe that TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY took place in.

But then, Nero B (and later, Spock B) comes back to 2233 in the Narada, and the moment he enters the timeline it branches again - Universe C.

Now, according to this game*, Universe C apparently contains Romulan ships that look Narada-like in 2258. But is this because Nero B gave them tech or anything like that? Could be, but this is counterindicated by Countdown and other materials we've seen - he was busy with Klingons.

So, instead, is this because in Universe B (and now, as a result, C) the Romulans developed their fleet based more off of the squid ship than the Warbird (which they sold to the Klingons as surplus), and this is what Romulan ships in Archer's (Archer B) future would have looked like, anyway? And the Narada's design is an extension of that.

If so, we're playing with the possibility of THREE regularly featured universes now. Four, if you count the Mirror.

* This assumes that the game designers got a chance to see some licensed designs we haven't been otherwise introduced to, yet. It is, admittedly, just as possible that they made stuff up, in which case, who knows?

 

[SoM]

Based on ST: Countdown, the Narada was (in effect) a prototype - Nero's mining ship was used as the guinea pig for a process involving Borg tech to upgrade Romulan ships and then some.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Based on ST: Countdown, the Narada was (in effect) a prototype - Nero's mining ship was used as the guinea pig for a process involving Borg tech to upgrade Romulan ships and then some.

Yes. But someone established the pattern that would be used to upgrade them - and odds are good that someone was a Romulan, who still would have been influenced by more traditional (for Universe B) Romulan shipbuilding practices.

 

[exodus]

Nero's ship was a mining ship. So wouldn't be be Reman in design, not Romulan.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Nero's ship was a mining ship. So wouldn't be be Reman in design, not Romulan.

So... are we suggesting that the squid ship on Enterprise was a Reman design?

Could be. Intriguing. Possible implications abound.

Is one of the changes caused by the Temporal Cold War that somehow the Remans have the upper hand in the Romulan Empire?

Or maybe they just used a Reman ship to insure that, even if someone saw its real design due to a malfunction or between changes, they wouldn't immediately think "Romulan".

 

[exodus]

Nero's ship was a mining ship. So wouldn't be be Reman in design, not Romulan.

So... are we suggesting that the squid ship on Enterprise was a Reman design?

Could be. Intriguing. Possible implications abound.

Is one of the changes caused by the Temporal Cold War that somehow the Remans have the upper hand in the Romulan Empire?

Or maybe they just used a Reman ship to insure that, even if someone saw its real design due to a malfunction or between changes, they wouldn't immediately think "Romulan".

No, I figured Nero is from the furture. Our future of our timeline, right?

In our timeline Shinzon caused the Remans to rebel, remember? So they aren't physical labor workers for the Romulans anymore. So now Romulans have to do their own dirty work. Therefore Nero ship is Reman.

Shinzon is a clone of Picard, his ship resembles "Livingston". Picards fish.

Nero is styled after Capt. Nemo. His ship resembles a Giant Squid, like the Nautilus.

Keeping with the jagged edge & aquatic design, Nero's ship is Reman in origin.

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