The Witcher - Netflix

[Kai "the spy"]

Maybe you might want to answer what being Indian has to do with a supposed lack of beauty before we move on to other things?

I know, you don't really want nothing else than to move on to other things, but I'm still kind of stuck on that part.

 

[fireproof78]

They didn't even animate the mouth when it talked. I've seen Dwayne the Rock Johnson play scorpions that looked better than this.

No. That scorpion animation is the worst.

 

[FreezeC77]

It is inexcusable that the witcher does not deliver the game experience.

We need to see Geralt spend five to ten minutes before any serious battle rummaging through his inventory for the applicable anti-monster potions. Then look at his armor and decide which armor set bonus is best suited.

Also he needs to loot a lot more. Pick up things like broken dishes and try to find new armor and weapon diagrams to get better gear.things

Stop trying to show a narrative that flows decently and give us the game experience!

 

[crookeddy]

No. That scorpion animation is the worst.

Some Youtubers with 0 budget improved that thing using off the shelf deep fake lol

 

[crookeddy]

Loved the Witcher 3 game. I'm absolutely baffled at how anyone can consider the Netflix show good. So many things to complain about, where to begin.

-Crap writing. Destiny, destiny, destiny, destiny, destiny, destiny. We get it.
-Ridiculously low budget special effects. Those dragons looked like something out Xena Warrior Princess.
-Horrible casting for Yennefer. She's supposed to be literally the most beautiful woman in the world. Like beyond supermodel quality. So they cast an unknown mousey looking Indian chick.
-Time jumps made no fucking sense. Confusing as hell.

And the worst offense - Geralt only had one sword. Everyone who wants to respond "hurrr durrr but in the booooooks" just shut the FUCK up right now. Having two swords, steel for humans and silver for monsters, is the coolest fucking thing about the Witcher and the most compelling visual element of the entire game. It defined the character in my head. It would have been so easy to adopt it for the show, immediately indicating what being a witcher was all about, but they dropped the ball hard. Now Geralt looks like any other generic Game of Thrones asshole out there with his single pathetic sword. So LAME.

Why did you post this angry, racist, nerd bashing stuff on a Star Trek message board? Did you expect it to be well received?

 

[theenglish]

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They didn't even animate the mouth when it talked. I've seen Dwayne the Rock Johnson play scorpions that looked better than this.

It speaks telepathically?

I am glad the show was not more video game inspired; that was one of my fears when it came out. I am really happy it was not video gamey. The books are actually quite introspective and often require Geralt to use his wits to solve the problem rather than his single sword.

Your depiction of Yennifer is quite offensive. Just because she does not fit with a traditional western european style of beauty does not mean she isn't look gorgeous.

 

[Owain Taggart]

So one, you're wrong. Expecting it to be like the game is perfectly reasonable.

Except for the fact that Sapowksi, the author, was very adamant about it being true to the books rather than the game. He's been very touchy about this fact. He's had issues with the game developers and the way they've used his property, and there even was a lawsuit. So while a large part of its popularity is due to the games, it was never going to be based on them. Events of the games follow on from the books.

Now, if you want to talk terrible production, then you'd be looking at the Polish production called The Hexer, made years before this one and is said to be rather terrible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hexer_(TV_series)

 

[Thestral]

It is true the show wouldn't have gotten made without the explosive popularity of the games, especially the third one. So you were always going to get a fanbase expecting it to look and feel more like the game.

So you know what would've been really good in terms of casting and making it more like the books? Get some Polish or at least central European people to play lead roles in a series set in fantasy Poland/central Europe. But no, it's a bunch of Brits with a couple of Aussies thrown in.

(And I adore Cavill in the role, he could stay)

 

[theenglish]

I agree with that completely. I know they wantes some big name faces on screen, but imagine in 2021 if the Witcher had been set in Asia and we got the casting we have now. That wouldnt be acceptable of course. I am sure there are plenty of Central European actors who would appreciate the opportunity to star in this series.

 

[fireproof78]

I think Witcher got made because of Game of Thrones first and the games second.

 

[eschaton]

Season 1 had flaws, because instead of doing a straight-up adaptation of the book of short stories it is mostly based upon, they wanted Ciri and Yennifer to be co-mains, which meant many of the short stories had to be edited down so much that the actual messages of the individual stories is often lost.

That said, it's not bad...just not a faithful adaptation.

 

[fireproof78]

I have yet to encounter a faithful adaptation in over ten years.

 

[Commander Troi]

I have never read the books or played the games. I wasn't really expecting to like it, but Yennifer's story got me hooked. My husband has been reading & enjoying the books (I think he's on the 5th or 6th one now) and considers the show relatively faithful.

FYI, we saw the animated prequel recently and thought it was good *and* important background to where the show is going in season 2.

 

[fireproof78]

I have never read the books or played the games. I wasn't really expecting to like it, but Yennifer's story got me hooked. My husband has been reading & enjoying the books (I think he's on the 5th or 6th one now) and considers the show relatively faithful.

I have zero experience with The Witcher outside the show. The show was done well enough to keep me interested, but not invested. By the end I was glad to be done because it was a harrowing ride there. So, it did something right but I can't say it motivated any interest outside the show.

 

[Thestral]

I agree with that completely. I know they wantes some big name faces on screen, but imagine in 2021 if the Witcher had been set in Asia and we got the casting we have now. That wouldnt be acceptable of course. I am sure there are plenty of Central European actors who would appreciate the opportunity to star in this series.

Yep. But it seems like "Fantasy must be England" is in full effect. It looks like the Wheel of Time adaptation is doing the same thing, too.

Sounds like Hollywood though. "All Asian people are the same, all white people are the same, all black people are the same."

 

[theenglish]

I think Witcher got made because of Game of Thrones first and the games second.

I think you are probably right there. It comes down to Netflix was looking for an adult Fantasy series as opposed to all the CWish stuff they make (much of which is quite good). The Witcher novels fit their criteria of a highly popular series with international appeal that they can produce in four seasons and that already has a built in audience. Sandman is another series that fits that same criteria. Most people in North America forget that most of Netflix's audience is overseas. And I'm happy for both of them to come to the screen.

 

[theenglish]

Yep. But it seems like "Fantasy must be England" is in full effect. It looks like the Wheel of Time adaptation is doing the same thing, too.

Sounds like Hollywood though. "All Asian people are the same, all white people are the same, all black people are the same."

Which is a shame. The thing that really makes the books unique is that its setting is as much Central European as Tolkien's Middle Earth was England. I've wanted to read the series for a long time, but only started it when I heard the series was being produced and was really surprised by how good the works are. In many ways it is inspired by D&D, but the story really does its own thing.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I think Witcher got made because of Game of Thrones first and the games second.

The irony behind that is that the first game came along long before Game of Thrones was on TV. Though admittedly, it was far more a niche back then.

 

[crookeddy]

The irony behind that is that the first game came along long before Game of Thrones was on TV. Though admittedly, it was far more a niche back then.

FAR more. I was a regular PC Gamer reader back then, and this game seemed way too hardcore of an RPG for me at the time. Later I read that it had a lot of sex and played it and loved it (but not for the sex).

 

[fireproof78]

The irony behind that is that the first game came along long before Game of Thrones was on TV. Though admittedly, it was far more a niche back then.

Well sure, but I think the idea of it being a viable series, worth spending money on, game from the success of Game of Thrones. Few video game properties are regarded as money making machines when put on to screen. The adaptation process simply isn't kind to video games. So, I can well imagine that Netflix decided to look for a fantasy property/book that could be adapted. The game was certainly niche, so working with the books makes a little bit more sense because it has the potential to catch a wide audience, from those who played the game, those who read the books and those (like me) who like fantasy in general.