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I've read most of the Expanse novels - lost interest in the series as it went along though. In a lot of ways it's well done, but they're sort of the hard-SF version of an airport novel - pretty disposable.

The biggest issue with the book series are the antagonists, who are generally more one-note than in the show. They tend to be broken down between mustache-twirling villainy and deeply flawed. Like Book Ashford is so, so much worse than show Ashford. As the series went on it moved away from "defeat a bad guy in every single novel" to something with more of a long-form arc, but other than the character development and the mystery of the protomolecule there's not that much which is compelling.
 
A few years back, I bought an artbook, showing off fantasy illustrations by the great Boris Vallejo. One of the paintings really captured my imagination, and that was titled "Nubian Warrior":
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(I put the black bar over some side boob I bet Google Ads would complain about, you can easily find the uncensored version looking for yourself online)

Now, the reason it stimulated me so much was the idea of Sword & Sorcery based on black African cultures and myths. I really hadn't encountered a lot of fantasy fiction based on such concepts. Most of the genre is based on European myths, there is some based on ancient Egyptian culture (mostly European and Euro-American horror fiction), with the closest maybe being the Arabian fairy tales and legends like Aladin or Sinbad.

So, I did some research, knowing Boris probably did the painting as a commissioned illustration. I'm still not a hundred percent sure about it, but I think now that it was most likely done for a series of African-based Sword & Sorcery stories around the hero Imaro, written by Charles R. Saunders. From what I found out in my research, this was exactly the kind of fiction I had imagined from the painting. Saunders was a black American writer and fantasy fan and enthusiast of African history and cultures, who created the character of Imaro and his world of Nyumbani in response to the racist stereotypes of black people used in fantasy fiction like Tarzan or Conan. Originally written as short stories published in fanzines of the 1970s, Saunders collected five of the stories for publishing as a novel simply titled "Imaro" for DAW Books in 1981, followed by two sequels, "The Quest for Cush" and "The Trail of Bohu".

Now, my enthusiasm got a big damper when I realized the books are out of print. Even a new edition of the first two novels from 2009 is only available through the secondary market. Now, for E-Book enthusiasts, the series is available in that form. Personally, I never really got into E-Books, and currently don't even have a portable device on which to read them on.

Recently, I finally found an afordable copy of the 2009 version of the first novel:
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and this week started reading it. And thus far, this is an amazing read. Saunders not only is capable of presenting his world in a fascinating way, but is also quite talented as to creating suspense and action prose. So much so that I'm now even more on the hunt for the other books in the series, as well as keeping an eye out for any other stories Saunders has written. And I'm kind of wondering why this series isn't a bigger deal. And I kind of decided I needed to spread the word, because this totally deserves to be a bigger deal.

At least, in its niche, Saunders has inspired a new subgenre of Sword & Soul fiction. Sadly, Saunders passed away last year.
 
Anybody here old enough to remember the old Ace Double novels? I used to devour those things when I was young. I think that was about a thousand years ago.

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Found this gem as a young teen
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Philip Jose Farmer at his pastiching best. The two books actually connect. and are sequels to
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Which I read much later, Probably a good idea as it was a bit X rated.:lol:
 
I've heard a lot of references to Philip Jose Farmer's stuff, and it sounds cool, but some of what I've heard about how sexually explicit they are kind turned me off.
 
Give David Feintuch's Seaforth series a try. Feintuch died a few years ago, and later books lose steam, but Midshipman's Hope is superb (teaser: in a very rigid society, accidents mean that a 17 year old finds he is the ranking officer in a ship that is years away from the nearest port).
 
I don't remember exactly what I read about his books, all I remember is it made me think, "nope, not going read these books".
 
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I haven't read anything by Farmer in decades, but I do remember enjoying the hell out of his Riverworld series way back when. He has a few Hugo and Nebula awards for some of his earlier works in the 60s and 70s.
 
I read the first Riverworld book last year and found it really interesting and fascinating. Haven't gone past that yet, though, because the description of the second book doesn't sound much like it carries forward all the interesting parts.
 
James S.A. Corey announced yesterday that they have delivered the manuscript for the final The Expanse novel, Leviathan Falls, to their publisher.
I love the show, but still haven't read beyond the first half of the first book yet. I started it back when the show started, but at the time I was reading to many books and that was one I set aside, and I never went back. I definitely plan to though, The Expanse is pretty high on my list once I get through some of the series I'm working on.

I love the Expanse Nobels and can't wait for the last book.
I also love the Witcher novels.

I have read the first Dresden files book, but couldn't really get into It. Maybe when I have finished the huge list of books give It another shot.
 
Give David Feintuch's Seaforth series a try. Feintuch died a few years ago, and later books lose steam, but Midshipman's Hope is superb (teaser: in a very rigid society, accidents mean that a 17 year old finds he is the ranking officer in a ship that is years away from the nearest port).

Read those a few years back. I thought they were ok, but the main character did tend to go on about his soul if I remember correctly.
 
So I was looking up some history on some old Ace Doubles and found this interesting quote. :D

"If the Holy Bible was printed as an Ace Double", an editor once remarked, "it would be cut down to two 20,000-word halves with the Old Testament retitled as ‘Master of Chaos’ and the New Testament as ‘The Thing With Three Souls.’"

— Charles McGrath, New York Times, May 6, 2007
 
I am not reading any scifi right now because there is nothing new from my favorite scifi authors.

The greatest ever Isaac Asimov is long dead. I love Larry Niven books that he writes by himself but he seems to be retired as a solo writer and only doing collaborations. His last solo novel was published 17 years ago. The only active favorite is Jack Mcdevitt. He just finished writing a new novel but it will be a while before it is published.

I have heard good things about those two Adrian Tchikovsky novels so I may give them a try.

Sorry for quoting myself. But with Asimov long dead, Niven basically retired as a solo writer and McDevitt getting older and slowing down, I have been looking for a new favorite scifi writer for a while but the search is officially over. Andy Weir has been on my Radar for a while. I loved Martian and Artemis and his latest is going to seal the deal. He is my new favorite scifi writer. I am now reading Project Hail Mary and loving it.
 
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Anybody here read A Canticle for Leibowitz or Neuromancer?

I used to teach Leibowitz in AP LIt--or provided it as an option depending on the year. Neuromancer I read in university about the time the movie came out. It was my introduction to cyberpunk.

EDIT: When I saw "movie", I actually mean Johnny Mnemonic. I think I read Neuromancer a couple years before that--but the two are linked in my mind.
 
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Did you like them? I've got a pretty big reading list, but they're towards the top, along 5 or 6 other books.
 
Did you like them? I've got a pretty big reading list, but they're towards the top, along 5 or 6 other books.
A Canticle for Leibowitz is great; it is a series of connected novellas. But despite the setting, it is much more of a sociological study than true speculative fiction. Neuromancer--I remember enjoying it but don't remember the details so I am not sure how well it has aged. I really like Gibson's work though.
 
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