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The Romulan drone ship..

Have to say the drone ship was very advanced for that era,it like the romulans got help from someone from the future to design the drone.
 
Have to say the drone ship was very advanced for that era,it like the romulans got help from someone from the future to design the drone.


Well in the original draft for the show Future Guy was supposed to be a Romulan but they later said it was actually Archer
 
Yeah, I don't know that it was particularly advanced. The interior of the ship was packed with ducts and doohickeys, indicating the Romulans not particularly advanced in terms of miniaturisation.

What was advanced? The remote control tech and the holographic camouflage are unusual, but not so radical that you'd have to assume they're from the future.
 
...If anything, they successfully managed to indicate that at least some technology the usual suspects possess in the TOS or TNG eras used to be more primitive in the ENT era. The phasers and photon torpedoes and transporters and warp drives just sorta exist in the 22nd century, without being distinct from their 23rd or 24th century counterparts (not that there would have been any difference between those latter two centuries either, tho). At least the holo-cloaks are clumsier!

Timo Saloniemi
 
Well in the original draft for the show Future Guy was supposed to be a Romulan but they later said it was actually Archer

That wasn't in the original draft. In both instances (FG being Romulan and Archer,) it was Braga speaking out of the side of his mouth many years after the fact.

The truth is that at the time, nobody knew who FG was, not even them. Because the Temporal Cold War (or at least the idea of adding something timey-wimey to the show) was something that was hoisted on them by UPN, and not something they originally wanted to do.
 
That wasn't in the original draft. In both instances (FG being Romulan and Archer,) it was Braga speaking out of the side of his mouth many years after the fact.

The truth is that at the time, nobody knew who FG was, not even them. Because the Temporal Cold War (or at least the idea of adding something timey-wimey to the show) was something that was hoisted on them by UPN, and not something they originally wanted to do.

I did not know that part of it. Only what Braga had said about FG being Archer
 
For some reason, lots of junk stuck to a ship makes people think it looks more advanced, while, conversely, they think that a smooth, sleek appearance is more primitive. :wtf:
I think that's more the thought process of special effects guys, and not so much reality. A "well, it's always been done this way since Star Wars, so it must be true" sort of thing.
 
The oft-discussed intent of the Star Wars folks was to create spacecraft that looked old and decrepit; all the greeblies were to that intent, really. There were smoother things, such as new landspeeders and the bow ends of the Y-wing fighters, and then stuff done deliberately to make these look used, broken or out of date, such as adding weathering and external piping and discarding vanity covers.

It's just that the end result looked so cool that it became the new sleek... even in shows that didn't go for the old and decrepit look, although that very thing also became a fad of sorts, for BSG and the like.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I love the look of the drone!

It does indeed harken to the much later Romulan-modded Narada Mining ship style, and maybe (from a Romulan design POV), utilitarian vessels look more akin to Earth-based Sea creatures (Squid, Prawn, etc), possessing a number of protrusions/tentacle apendages, sensors, probes, etc... throughout most perods of Romulan design.
 
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Love the design, too. I am curious, however, how it would look in the Warbird configuration, since they are saying in the episode that it is a modified Warbird. Does it come with the traditonal wings then?
 
They're saying it's built around an easily recognizable warbird propulsion system. Doesn't mean there'd be a single plate or rivet from the original hull present...

Timo Saloniemi
 
They're saying it's built around an easily recognizable warbird propulsion system. Doesn't mean there'd be a single plate or rivet from the original hull present...
That's not quite what they are saying. Here's the exact line:
VRAX: This prototype's a modified warbird. The Vulcans would identify it the moment they inspected the propulsion matrix.
Sure, it could mean they modified it so much that only the propulsion system is recognizably from a Warbird. But that's not what they are saying.
 
Yet in essence, the exchange confirms that only the propulsion system would be recognizable: surely the Vulcans would otherwise identify the ship at a distance! Indeed, Valdore next swears that distance is the thing that will prevent the Vulcans from making the identification.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Makes me sad to think what more they could've done with the Romulans with another couple of seasons. They could've been what the Dominion was for DS9. :sigh:

I actually think it would have been a lot more compelling to have the Romulans attack Earth rather than the Xindi. Archer's mission could then have been a success -- destroying the weapon™ and saving Earth -- but ultimately failing to prevent the war. It also would have an interesting twice for the Romulans to have become such pervasive adversaries due to temporal meddling/manipulation.

on the other side i dont want to watch a show full of rubbish white plastic models
like TOS

You should head over to the Fan Art forum. Some of what the folks there are doing with those "rubbish white plastic models" is pretty impressive. The old designs look really great with modern lighting and effects.

Well in the original draft for the show Future Guy was supposed to be a Romulan but they later said it was actually Archer

I never heard this... But it kind of makes sense. If people from far uptime, like Daniels, could transport themselves to other times, why would Future Guy have such trouble merely communicating with the past? The only reasonable explanation is that his tech was vastly inferior -- perhaps due to its being created (or stolen and not completely understood) in a time as early as the late 22nd century.
 
Enterprise ended way to soon, it is unfortunate because we could have found out the outcome with the Romulans, and also more about the Time Lords afoot! I do wish they would give us a ST-E miniseries to wrap up the loose ends. It would be nice.

And now, I am off to the mess hall for a piece of chef's 'Pecan Pie', yummie.
 
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