The lounge area on TOS, did it have a name?

[startrekfiero]

Just curious if any of you know if we ever heard in any of the original series episodes where the lounge was referred to by a specific name like they did in TNG with calling it on the Enterprise D as ten forward?
And how about the rec room, was that a separate area?

Thanks in advance

Steve

 

[Brian]

I always thought it was called the Rec Room. You mean the room where Uhura sings in "Charlie X" and Kirk gets tribbles in his food in "The Trouble With Tribbles", right?

In ST:TMP, I think they called the much larger space where Decker took the Ilia probe the Rec Deck.

 

[Timo]

In "Let That Be Your Last Hamhanded Allegory", Spock gives us a running commentary on the two running idiots. They are said to be passing "recreation room 3" and approaching "crew lounge" on Deck 3. Then, a bit later, they reach Deck 5, and again they pass "recreation room 3".

So perhaps even the TOS ship had a vast multi-level recreation center, three decks high, only configured slightly differently? With at least six subdivisions to this large space ("Charlie X" mentions Rec Room 6, also on Deck 3), somewhere close to the core of the saucer and inboard of the transporter rooms?

It would actually also make a lot of sense to assume that the ST:TMP facility was close to the core of the saucer. It's half a story too tall to fit at the rim of the saucer, and it has suggestive twin turboshafts at one end, matching the two lift doors up on the bridge... Perhaps it's basically identical to the TOS facility, only with some dividing walls removed and some fake windows installed at the outer wall.

And yes, it does seem that these Rec Rooms include the mess hall with the food dispensers and tables. Rand does say in "Charlie X" that she is going to Rec Room 6 and asks Charlie to meet her there, after which we go to the scene where Uhura sings by the food dispensers, Rand listens, and eventually Charlie arrives.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

In The Naked Time, after Joey stabbed himself with a butter knife, Kevin Riley ran to the communication panel on the wall and said:

"Emergency. Rec Room, area 3-9. We need medics!"

So I assume those lounges were the "Rec Rooms"

 

[cooleddie74]

Rec Room or the Rec Area. They seemed interchangeable.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Rec Room or the Rec Area. They seemed interchangeable.

And in ST V, we see Kirk, Spock and McCoy in that area with the phony wooden ship's wheel at the front of the Enterprise-A. That area was coined "Five Forward" by the production team because it was an equivalent space (on Deck 5) to the bar area (on Deck 10) of TNG's Enterprise-D.

 

[Brian]

^ Shouldn't that be "Seventy-Four Forward"?

 

[Green Shirt]

^ Shouldn't that be "Seventy-Four Forward"?

Ouch.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Rec Room or the Rec Area. They seemed interchangeable.

And in ST V, we see Kirk, Spock and McCoy in that area with the phony wooden ship's wheel at the front of the Enterprise-A. That area was coined "Five Forward" by the production team because it was an equivalent space (on Deck 5) to the bar area (on Deck 10) of TNG's Enterprise-D.

Yet, there was no window placed on the model to accurately depect this facilities' location within the ship. I wished they'd tried to do the version of the Officer's Lounge that Probert suggested for TMP, right below the bridge. Oh, well. Guess what they built for TFF was cheaper and nevertheless a cool looking set. I always like the ship's wheel in the lounge with the plaque that read: Where No Man Has Gone Before.

 

[cooleddie74]

Rec Room or the Rec Area. They seemed interchangeable.

And in ST V, we see Kirk, Spock and McCoy in that area with the phony wooden ship's wheel at the front of the Enterprise-A. That area was coined "Five Forward" by the production team because it was an equivalent space (on Deck 5) to the bar area (on Deck 10) of TNG's Enterprise-D.

Yet, there was no window placed on the model to accurately depect this facilities' location within the ship. I wished they'd tried to do the version of the Officer's Lounge that Probert suggested for TMP, right below the bridge. Oh, well. Guess what they built for TFF was cheaper and nevertheless a cool looking set. I always like the ship's wheel in the lounge with the plaque that read: Where No Man Has Gone Before.

Although the plaque looked pretty low-budget and almost as if someone in the Art Department painted it with watercolors.

 

[Ziz]

Hey, we know Trek 5 was done on the quick and cheap. It's the thought that counts.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Yet, there was no window placed on the model to accurately depect this facilities' location within the ship.

It was a viewscreen, not a real window.

 

[cooleddie74]

Hey, we know Trek 5 was done on the quick and cheap. It's the thought that counts.

I know. Just being snarky.

Besides, TFF had things NEMESIS didn't. Like...heart. Soul. Characters we actually kind of gave a shit about for more than a few minutes in a row.

 

[Jptrekker]

Well, there is a bowling alley on the Enterprise (at least according to the Franz Joseph blueprints) where all the birthday parties take place...

back from this caption contest.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Yet, there was no window placed on the model to accurately depect this facilities' location within the ship.

It was a viewscreen, not a real window.

Ah, yes, just like the one in the TMP officer's lounge.

 

[cooleddie74]

Well, there is a bowling alley on the Enterprise (at least according to the Franz Joseph blueprints) where all the birthday parties take place...

back from this caption contest.

Boy, did I love the hell outta THAT one. Good times.

 

[ToddPence]

In the animated episode "The Practical Joker", the term "recreation room" is used to refer to the proto-version of the Holodeck, which made its debut in this episode. The usage is somewhat confusing, since before "Practical Joker" the term "recreation room" on the Enterprise had always been used to designate an unespecial lounge.

 

[Timo]

Then again, TOS already nicely establishes that the ship has a great number of Rec Rooms, quite possibly with several different internal layouts and functions.

Really, the ship sounds like a flying amusement park, in TOS, TAS and TMP alike. Is it truly realistic for the designers to dedicate so much volume to recreation, to giant communal halls, to entire onboard parks? Would the folks truly go stir-crazy if they didn't get their daily dose of walks in the woods?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

Then again, TOS already nicely establishes that the ship has a great number of Rec Rooms, quite possibly with several different internal layouts and functions.

Really, the ship sounds like a flying amusement park, in TOS, TAS and TMP alike. Is it truly realistic for the designers to dedicate so much volume to recreation, to giant communal halls, to entire onboard parks? Would the folks truly go stir-crazy if they didn't get their daily dose of walks in the woods?

Timo Saloniemi

Obviously they, like all Starfleet engineers, were going out of their way to make an impractical design. When dealing with Starfleet technology, you can't think logically. The last time a Federation engineer had logic was "let's put the high-energy warp drives somewhere that isn't next to the crew."

 

[Therin of Andor]

before "Practical Joker" the term "recreation room" on the Enterprise had always been used to designate an unespecial lounge.

They had it set on the "unespecial lounge" program.