I always had a soft spot for Mr. Kyle, and hope he survived the stranding on Ceti Alpha V.
The Fate of TOS characters and do you want to see short films about them like "Unification"?
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Don't care and no.
No, they don't. A setting has to be invented for each new show. There is no "there," out there, to turn to for inspiration or to explore for material. There are no people to select from to populate a ship. There sure as hell are not thousands or millions of unexplored worlds. Writers invent it all, every time out.
There's no "forward" nor "backward," either. Even within the context of a narrative chronology, nothing changes enough from one era of Trek's faux history to the next to make the differences interesting to any but a relatively small number of dedicated completists.
No, they don't. A setting has to be invented for each new show. There is no "there," out there, to turn to for inspiration or to explore for material. There are no people to select from to populate a ship. There sure as hell are not thousands or millions of unexplored worlds. Writers invent it all, every time out.
There's no "forward" nor "backward," either. Even within the context of a narrative chronology, nothing changes enough from one era of Trek's faux history to the next to make the differences interesting to any but a relatively small number of dedicated completists.
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The tech demo was nice, but no more please.
After giving some thought, my preference would be a partnership between the Roddenberry Archive and secret hideout/Paramount in reviving Short Treks under a hybrid production banner. . Perhaps most of them would still serve as a playground for the Roddenberry Archive's tech company - mostly covering Roddenberry era characters and settings but with some added budget/filming assets.
Rinning Time anywhere from about 5 minutes to 15 minutes. I would lay off more "Unification " style films with well known characters. But wouldn't mind seeing characters like Colt being brought back, just probably no ( or very few) main characters being brought back using the legacy characters' original actors likeness.
Rinning Time anywhere from about 5 minutes to 15 minutes. I would lay off more "Unification " style films with well known characters. But wouldn't mind seeing characters like Colt being brought back, just probably no ( or very few) main characters being brought back using the legacy characters' original actors likeness.
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^^this. It's a vignette and a technical achievement, designed to draw interest.
Seeing two departed characters' souls reunited is an aspect of that and I wish McCoy came in at the end to crack a joke. It wasn't my cup of tea, but maybe it'll get kids to look at the older stuff. Or it's made for older fans to have their emotional sponge squeezed again, because the format of the old stuff is so different that some of today's kids could be bored by it. No different to many kids of the 80s that couldn't sit from anything made in 1935. Even the 1930s Flash Gordon serials were old hat a few decades later...
^^this, on all counts.
^^this, to get audiences to get invested and really dig into new character archetypes and the situations. Look at Star Wars, influenced by the 30s Flash Gordon serials and a bunch of other things, it came out more than everything put into it and audiences adored and flocked to seeing where the new characters would go.
Wringing the emotional sponge via old characters via CGI with some folsky stuff is a bit samey, and even "And the Children Shall Lead" has more creativity. Well, TOS was anything but uncreative, even for the fan-unfavorites, but not all 79 are going to be S-tier 10/10 stories.
Exactly this.
I see complaints about Trek not moving forward yet see the constant request to shoehorn in more and more of original series characters.
McCoy was unnecessary in TNG, as was Scotty and even a bit of Spock though I appreciated him in ST 09.
But, please move forward.
Give it 20 years and elderly Admiral Burnham (retired) will show up on the next Trek show, and all her present haters will smile with orgasmic, nostalgic glee.
Note the time and place of this prediction.
Note the time and place of this prediction.
She was already elderly Admiral Burnham (retired) at the end of the finale. So I'm sure she'll be back for Starfleet Academy's premiere.
I think it's too soon for the orgasmic glee, though. We'll see.
I'm assuming every TOS character unaccounted for died at some point in the 24th Century due to Old Age.
Scotty died a bit younger, not making it to biological triple-digits. He drank himself to death with too much whiskey.
We know how Kirk and Spock die. And look at how old McCoy was. He clearly died from Old Age. So, as far as the Big Three, that's basically all covered as far as I'm concerned.
Scotty died a bit younger, not making it to biological triple-digits. He drank himself to death with too much whiskey.
We know how Kirk and Spock die. And look at how old McCoy was. He clearly died from Old Age. So, as far as the Big Three, that's basically all covered as far as I'm concerned.
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After watching Picard, I vote no, leave them be. The stories we dream up in our own imaginations are far better than anything the current writers can come up with.
As long as the TOS actor's scenese are canon from Gods and Men, i don't care either way if they continue the stories. I wouldn't mind it, as long as it doesn't contradict ACTUAL footage they have filmed. (I consider anything with an actual TOS actor to be personal canon.)
iirc, in one tng novel scotty heard spock was in trouble on romulus again and stole a connie museum ship that had been back-dated to TOS era condition, as well as THE cloaking device, to go rescue him, and Picard and the crew of D have to go stop him before he causes an "incident". can't remember if bones is involved in that. i do seem to recall an appearance of him in one novel or other where he was steadier on his feet with new, better organs packed in him, but that might have been the "shatnerverse" and that's... a whole thing on it's own.
personally, i think while scotty might have scooted of to someplace like ba'ku for a while, as someone else suggested, he would have gotten tired of retirement, come back to the starfleet fold, reeducated himself, and thrown himself back into engineering and ship desgn.
as to sulu, i vaguely recall another tng era novel that involved setting up a colony that strongly implied that an unnamed elderly former pilot that was part of the colony was him.
as to the second part... i am not opposed to "short treks" on characters both major or minor, but would prefer them to be more "the adventure continues" rather than "their fate", and not deepfakes/cgi ghosts. also ones featuring noodle incidents and obscure stuff that happened off screen, to characters we have never met before, but perhaps are not weighty enough for a full episode or tv movie.
and whenever bones makes a reappearance, it should be karl urban XD
personally, i think while scotty might have scooted of to someplace like ba'ku for a while, as someone else suggested, he would have gotten tired of retirement, come back to the starfleet fold, reeducated himself, and thrown himself back into engineering and ship desgn.
as to sulu, i vaguely recall another tng era novel that involved setting up a colony that strongly implied that an unnamed elderly former pilot that was part of the colony was him.
as to the second part... i am not opposed to "short treks" on characters both major or minor, but would prefer them to be more "the adventure continues" rather than "their fate", and not deepfakes/cgi ghosts. also ones featuring noodle incidents and obscure stuff that happened off screen, to characters we have never met before, but perhaps are not weighty enough for a full episode or tv movie.
and whenever bones makes a reappearance, it should be karl urban XD
Right. I do not like all the TOS characters in SNW. None should be in there except SPOCK.
....so far we have SPOCK,CHAPEL,UHURA and SCOTTY working aboard the pre Kirk Enterprise and Kirk has visited a couple times.. I'm sure we will see McCoy and Sulu sooN as well. Maybe even Chekov and Rand..
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"I Want To Be a Part of It": William Shatner Wants To Return to Star Trek With a Little Sci-Fi Magic
Modern-day movie-making technology can bring people back from the dead, literally. It can make people look 10, 15, or even 30 years younger than they are with the right tools. Those kinds of tools are how William Shatner suggests he could make a return to the Star Trek franchise. Longtime fans of the long-running science fiction franchise know that Shatner's Captain James T. Kirk was killed off, the end, no coming back in the film Star Trek: Generations. He starred in the film alongside Sir Patrick Stewart's Captain Jean-Luc Picard. During a red carpet interview at the 2025 Saturn Awards, Shatner told Collider's Aidan Kelley the way he sees a return to the franchise, without much effort on his part. He said:
"Well, the science of special effects is progressing to such a degree and I want to be part of it. So, although I don't want to do it again, being part of this advanced technology is wondrous."
collider.com
Seems like Shatner is on board with the idea.
Modern-day movie-making technology can bring people back from the dead, literally. It can make people look 10, 15, or even 30 years younger than they are with the right tools. Those kinds of tools are how William Shatner suggests he could make a return to the Star Trek franchise. Longtime fans of the long-running science fiction franchise know that Shatner's Captain James T. Kirk was killed off, the end, no coming back in the film Star Trek: Generations. He starred in the film alongside Sir Patrick Stewart's Captain Jean-Luc Picard. During a red carpet interview at the 2025 Saturn Awards, Shatner told Collider's Aidan Kelley the way he sees a return to the franchise, without much effort on his part. He said:
"Well, the science of special effects is progressing to such a degree and I want to be part of it. So, although I don't want to do it again, being part of this advanced technology is wondrous."
"I Want To Be a Part of It": William Shatner Wants To Return to Star Trek With a Little Sci-Fi Magic [Exclusive]
William Shatner, best known for his role as Captain James T. Kirk in Star Trek, explains how he'd want to return to the franchise.
collider.com
Seems like Shatner is on board with the idea.
After the crappy way Kirk and Spock died in canon I think ive had enough. Kirk fell off a bridge and spock died off screen in the crappy kelvin universe relatively young for a vulcan about 161 when his dad lived to be 203. Nah I say leave it alone.
Spock Prime's early death may have been due to a combination of his half-humanity and side effects of being in the wrong reality.
