TATV - Explain, please!

[Trekkin' Trev']

I just watched TATV again and I was surprised how little of it I remembered. But one thing stuck out as very confusing. I could go back and look at it again but I thought I'd get more enlightenment here. If the answer is obvious, please pardon the ignorance.

SPOILER

Trip dies in sick bay. But what's with the wink he exchanges with Archer? And since this this a holodeck simulation, why would it be there and who's to say it really happened? Then, after that, we get the scene of Trip speaking to Chef (embodied by Riker), which is obviously out of sequence. I don't get it. Did I tune out on this somehow or is there really some ambiguity in this? Thanks!

 

[Triptacular]

I think the wink is a signal between Connor and Scott (not the characters). It conveys, "This script is such a piece of shit".

(it's the only logical explanation)

 

[Nebusj]

The wink is that Tucker's confident that all will be well, even if he doesn't live through this.

The sequence of Tucker talking with Chef is, Riker rewound the holodeck to a chapter from before Tucker died, so he could have a conversation with him. Note that the carrots aren't peeled; this scene is Riker playing out whatever conversation the real Chef had with Tucker before Chef talked with T'pol.

 

[ALF]

Trekkin' Trev' said:
Trip dies in sick bay. But what's with the wink he exchanges with Archer? And since this this a holodeck simulation, why would it be there and who's to say it really happened?

Read "The Good That Men Do", the Enterprise relaunch novel.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the explaination about that wink.

Keep in mind, had there been a season 5, they couldn't have had Trip dead. Even "6 years later" because they could never have put Trip in danger again in the series... there would have been no drama, no stakes, knowing he would die eventually. Right?

History (for whatever reason) recorded Trip's death that way. But how well do we know our own events from 200 years ago?

 

[Guy Gardener]

George Washington was assassinated and replaced by a German agitator named Wiesupt(sp?)?

 

[ALF]

Guy Gardener said:
George Washington was assassinated and replaced by a German agitator named Wiesupt(sp?)?

That's right! Of course, T'Pol invented velcro as well, let's not forget that.

 

[Trekkin' Trev']

I got the carrots peeling thing. It was as subtle as a garlic sandwich. But what was the point of the rewind? As far as I could determine (through this poorly written mess) it was not a moment pivotal to Riker's problem. If it was, I totally missed it.

 

[Tino]

I always thought he wanted to convince his captain that everytime will be alright and that Trip Tucker is always a happy person. The captain should remember him as a happy person that made fun even when dying. ;-)

 

[ChristopherPike]

I often wonder whether the wink was added late in the day... as a hook to begin undoing Trip's death should Enterprise ever return in any shape or form. In a sense, that's how Pocket Books ran with it.

 

[commodore64]

The wink signifies -- "I'll be all right." Trip is putting on a brave face, but is obviously near death.

Seems like the actor's (Connor Trinneer's) choice; I thought it worked.

 

[Nebusj]

Trekkin' Trev' said:
I got the carrots peeling thing. It was as subtle as a garlic sandwich. But what was the point of the rewind? As far as I could determine (through this poorly written mess) it was not a moment pivotal to Riker's problem. If it was, I totally missed it.

Well, figuring out how any of this was pivotal to Riker's problem is a mystery in the best of cases. But Tucker's chat with Riker was about trust and loyalty, and that didn't have punch until Riker saw where disobeying an odd, hastily called out impulse could lead to unsavory consequences and yet he charged ahead anyway because it was worth it.

So in order to decide to throw his loyalties in with Admiral Pressman Riker needs to see Tucker getting killed and Tucker talking about how great Archer is. Having Tucker get killed first -- the rewind option -- makes his chat with Riker his own eulogy, saving valuable screen time and making what he says more powerful.

 

[Hoshi's sis]

ChristopherPike said:
I often wonder whether the wink was added late in the day... as a hook to begin undoing Trip's death should Enterprise ever return in any shape or form. In a sense, that's how Pocket Books ran with it.

Good point. :thumbsup:

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I always figured it was Trinner's way of breaking the fourth wall between us and him, much in the same way George Reeves often gave the Clark Kent wink at the end of several episodes of The Adventure's of Superman (a wink that was carried over to the comics).