Supernatural 6x6 "You Can't Handle the Truth" discussion thread
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I knew it! I knew Sam came back without a soul. It explains everything. The preview for next episode revealed it. So Sam and Dean would have to find his soul and get it back in his body and that's if Sam wants it back and god knows what kind of guilt trip Sam will put himself through once he gets it back.
And is it wrong for me to get a thrill out of Dean beating the crap out of Sam?
And is it wrong for me to get a thrill out of Dean beating the crap out of Sam?
Well looks like some of our suspicions about Sam we made last week are true...
No, it's not wrong, Joe Washington. I got a thrill out of it, and I like Sam. Wow, this season is sure packing a wallop.
Here's my theory for what is to come in future episodes of Season 6:
Sam finds out he doesn't have a soul from Castiel which either happened during his time in Hell and Sam's lying to Dean about not knowing how it happened or it happened during the process of him being sent from Hell back to Earth without his knowledge. When Dean propose looking for Sam's soul and getting it back, Sam refuses to do it thinking he's stronger without his soul. But the events of next episode will give him a rude awakening that being without a soul isn't really good for him and it may be best for him to find it before it's too late. I saw these promo photos of next episode featuring Dean sitting on the hood of a car looking eye-to-eye with Sam who's at the wheel of it and I think that's how Episode 7 ends: with Sam and Dean coming to the understanding that they need to hunt down his soul and Sam's better-said-than-done promise to keep himself from losing himself in his soulless nature before they do.
Somewhere around mid-season, Sam gets his soul back but the second half of the season will focus on the consequences of Sam getting his soul back. Maybe getting back his soul comes with some serious emotional turmoil over the things Sam has done in the past year without Dean looking after him and his struggle to process all of it. Maybe it'll affect his abilities as a hunter. Cause him to have the shakes and freeze in action. Maybe it makes him lose his zeal for the hunting life that was driving him back when he was soulless. The way I see things are going to get a lot worst for Sam before they get better.
Sam finds out he doesn't have a soul from Castiel which either happened during his time in Hell and Sam's lying to Dean about not knowing how it happened or it happened during the process of him being sent from Hell back to Earth without his knowledge. When Dean propose looking for Sam's soul and getting it back, Sam refuses to do it thinking he's stronger without his soul. But the events of next episode will give him a rude awakening that being without a soul isn't really good for him and it may be best for him to find it before it's too late. I saw these promo photos of next episode featuring Dean sitting on the hood of a car looking eye-to-eye with Sam who's at the wheel of it and I think that's how Episode 7 ends: with Sam and Dean coming to the understanding that they need to hunt down his soul and Sam's better-said-than-done promise to keep himself from losing himself in his soulless nature before they do.
Somewhere around mid-season, Sam gets his soul back but the second half of the season will focus on the consequences of Sam getting his soul back. Maybe getting back his soul comes with some serious emotional turmoil over the things Sam has done in the past year without Dean looking after him and his struggle to process all of it. Maybe it'll affect his abilities as a hunter. Cause him to have the shakes and freeze in action. Maybe it makes him lose his zeal for the hunting life that was driving him back when he was soulless. The way I see things are going to get a lot worst for Sam before they get better.
This wasn't a bad episode but it was not very exciting or interesting--it felt like it was just going through the motions. The only time it caused me to sit up and pay attention was about the time Veritas ratted out Sam but that was nearly the end of the episode--but I could have done without more of the brothers beating the shit out of each other--they did that most recently in season four. At least the writers acknowledged the way the angst between the brothers has come to monopolize and define their relationship--for me it has crossed over into repetitiveness and I'm not the least bit interested in it. And I'm tired of scenes with Dean drinking--I get the point already.
Everything else was what I've come to expect from the show--the boys captured and placed in false jeopardy, the standard investigation, a stale supernatural mystery that is just a MacGuffin instead of something interesting in its own right. I'd like to be feel something about the whole Dean/Lisa situation but I never cared for her and never bought the relationship between the two even moreso due to the fact very little of it was seen onscreen--heck the season starts a year later--so I can't feel for Dean's plight there.
The one bright spot was the actress portaying Veritas did a really good job with her.
I'll give it a C. The episode just didn't inspire me.
Everything else was what I've come to expect from the show--the boys captured and placed in false jeopardy, the standard investigation, a stale supernatural mystery that is just a MacGuffin instead of something interesting in its own right. I'd like to be feel something about the whole Dean/Lisa situation but I never cared for her and never bought the relationship between the two even moreso due to the fact very little of it was seen onscreen--heck the season starts a year later--so I can't feel for Dean's plight there.
The one bright spot was the actress portaying Veritas did a really good job with her.
I'll give it a C. The episode just didn't inspire me.
It inspired me. The easy familiarity of Cas pouring Dean a drink, the idea of a man who doesn't feel--I like it.
"The idea of a man who doesn't feel" was definitely an intriguing development but it was nothing more than a brief teaser setting up next week's episode--hardly enough to compensate for an otherwise pretty pedestrian hour. And that has been SN's problem for a while now--the show does a fairly decent job in the last 15 minutes of the show but everything else leading up to it is not very interesting or worthwhile. In my opinion, the entire episode from teaser to closing credits should be olding my attention.
And I was once upon a time a big fan of Castiel's but this season he isn't being utilized very well since I haven't liked any of his brief appearances--I'm thinking I would have preferred the show to have not brought him back and left him up in heaven for good.
They have to walk a fine line with Cas and how much to use him as a character. He can't retain his "otherness" if he's on screen too much.
I really liked this week's episode.
The monster was of the week was the B plot, while the A plot was about Dean and Sam. Dean had every right be angry. It was interesting to see other gods on the show. Looks like Lucifer didn't get rid of all of them like I thought he did last season. Somehow I really doubt that it is over with Lisa. That ending was really a killer.
The preview implies that Dean and Cas are going to try to deprogram Sam next week. Looking forward to that.
It is looking more and more like Cas is going to be more of a supporting character this season, which is fine for now. Seasons four and five had him in almost every episode. Misha's wife recently had a baby which is why he isn't on much this season. Hopefully he appears more in the later half of the season.
The monster was of the week was the B plot, while the A plot was about Dean and Sam. Dean had every right be angry. It was interesting to see other gods on the show. Looks like Lucifer didn't get rid of all of them like I thought he did last season. Somehow I really doubt that it is over with Lisa. That ending was really a killer.
The preview implies that Dean and Cas are going to try to deprogram Sam next week. Looking forward to that.
It is looking more and more like Cas is going to be more of a supporting character this season, which is fine for now. Seasons four and five had him in almost every episode. Misha's wife recently had a baby which is why he isn't on much this season. Hopefully he appears more in the later half of the season.
I liked the way Dean took down Sam. Sam has obviously been working out lately, and Dean has (by comparison) been out of the game. It makes sense that Dean would need to go in hard and fast to win.
Edit: I agree that the actress did very well with the Veritas character. It would have been nice to see her in a more long-term role.
Edit: I agree that the actress did very well with the Veritas character. It would have been nice to see her in a more long-term role.
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That's right. His wife did just have their son about two weeks ago. She would have been late in her pregnancy at the time they filmed.
Crowley probably has Sam's soul.
I think I'm in love with the waitress who killed herself.
So.... I'll have to add her to the list with Alyson Hannigan, Jennifer Aniston, Sandra Bullock, Heather Goldenhersh, Courtney Thorne-Smith, Liv Tyler, Sarah Michelle Geller, Salma Hayek, Michelle Pfeiffer...
So.... I'll have to add her to the list with Alyson Hannigan, Jennifer Aniston, Sandra Bullock, Heather Goldenhersh, Courtney Thorne-Smith, Liv Tyler, Sarah Michelle Geller, Salma Hayek, Michelle Pfeiffer...
I really didn't understand that one guy's "truthful" comment about the waitress being a "3."
I didn't either. I thought she was cute in a nerdy kind of way.
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