Superman
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I don't know why we're talking about the right tone for Batman movies, but okay, I'm game.
For some time now I've been thinking that maybe the Batman movie franchise should be like an anthology series, with different filmmakers getting to make their interpretation of Batman. More than any other superhero, Batman is adaptable to a wide variety of tones that are all legitimate. You could have something like the James Bond Gunbarrel sequence at the beginning, like the WB logo morphing into the Bat logo like the Schumacher movies did, maybe even borrow the theme song (the 90s movies had some real bangers, like Siouxie & the Banshee's Face to Face, or U2's Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me) with Maurice Binder-style opening credit sequence. But give the filmmakers maybe 50-100 milion for budget and then let them do it their way. You could even have different filmmakers working on their projects concurrently, so you could have a new Batman movie in a different style every two years.
And I'll admit it, I've been having this fantasy about what kind of Batman movie I would make, and it would be based on Paul Dini's Heart of Ice, visually emulating the style of Kelley Jones, and it would involve Bats using the Matches Malone persona. Oh, and using the Danny Elfman themes, maybe even hire him back and ask him to do it like he did for Batman Returns (actually prefer that score slightly over the '89 one).
For some time now I've been thinking that maybe the Batman movie franchise should be like an anthology series, with different filmmakers getting to make their interpretation of Batman. More than any other superhero, Batman is adaptable to a wide variety of tones that are all legitimate. You could have something like the James Bond Gunbarrel sequence at the beginning, like the WB logo morphing into the Bat logo like the Schumacher movies did, maybe even borrow the theme song (the 90s movies had some real bangers, like Siouxie & the Banshee's Face to Face, or U2's Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me) with Maurice Binder-style opening credit sequence. But give the filmmakers maybe 50-100 milion for budget and then let them do it their way. You could even have different filmmakers working on their projects concurrently, so you could have a new Batman movie in a different style every two years.
And I'll admit it, I've been having this fantasy about what kind of Batman movie I would make, and it would be based on Paul Dini's Heart of Ice, visually emulating the style of Kelley Jones, and it would involve Bats using the Matches Malone persona. Oh, and using the Danny Elfman themes, maybe even hire him back and ask him to do it like he did for Batman Returns (actually prefer that score slightly over the '89 one).
Be interesting to see Batman in a straight up detective story, Probably not very commercial though.
I think more than the dark and gritty, it's the faux realism people are tired of.
Problem is that everything about Batman is incredibly unrealistic.
The tone of the Dark Knight trilogy was like a breath of fresh air after the ridiculous Batman & Robin eight years prior. But at some point it would be nice to have something that isn't so heavy and gloomy.
That said, there was plenty of far-fetched stuff in Nolan's trilogy.
And, back to Superman... a more adventurous and less grim tone would be nice with the Superman character, as well. The reason we're still talking Batman so much is because the Dark Knight trilogy set the stage in so many ways for the DCEU movies that came afterward.
Kor
That said, there was plenty of far-fetched stuff in Nolan's trilogy.
And, back to Superman... a more adventurous and less grim tone would be nice with the Superman character, as well. The reason we're still talking Batman so much is because the Dark Knight trilogy set the stage in so many ways for the DCEU movies that came afterward.
Kor
IMO, Batman needs to be the Night to Superman's Day. Emulating the tone of the two animated series would work great for me.
Agreed. Overall, I would say that Batman: TAS and Mask of the Phantasm are my favorite screen depictions of Batman, ever.
Kor
Makes me think of the Denny O'Neil quote "Gotham City is NY at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November and Metropolis is NY on a beautiful May day".
What "faux realism"?
The “faux realism” that tries to pretend there’s anything realistic about superhero stories — usually by determinedly leaching all the fun and fantasy out of them.
The Brave and the Bold movie is supposed to be based on Morrison and Kubert's "Batman and Son" storyline with Damian Wayne and the League of Assassins, so a tone like the Brave and the Bold animated series would be rather odd for that. It just happens to share a name. I'm expecting something more along the lines of the Son of Batman animated movie from 2014.
Kor
Batman is the closest thing we have to "an American James Bond" in some ways. Non-powered dude with cool gadgets who fights weirdos and master criminals. As everything from Adam West to Tim Burton to Christopher Nolan have show, there are a number of successful ways to do the character. I like the idea of a (pre-Craig) Bondian "soft reboot" every few years, with different directors doing their thing.
