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Spoilers Star Trek: The Old School Re-Exemanied

Doc Mugatu

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WARNING: "SPOILERS" AHEAD! :lol:

Started going back over The Original Series on Netflix. First up was "The Man Trap" and it was an interesting watch through modern eyes. This story was basically a simple monster hunt, yet by today's standards there was a shocking absence of empathy even after they knew it was an intelligent being attempting to stave off extinction.

It was really noticeable in the conference room scene when Professor Crater informs them that the creature needs love as much as salt to survive. Not even Spock suggested trying to communicate with it. In fact, he did not even acknowledge the "creature" had any semblance of "humanity."

I would imagine the negotiations would have been pretty straightforward given that all "Nancy" needed was salt and salt is generally plentiful. The unknown alien being was acting from an understandable fear. The Enterprise crew should have reacted better than they did.

I do note the series (and franchise) does becomes more sensitive and empathetic as time went on. Season one's "Devil In The Dark" for example was a somewhat similar story handled much more sympathetically. Of course, we can only chalk this up to the foundation was still not dry (or even necessarily laid) on Gene Roddenberry's "vision" yet. So, in retrospect, the theme of an archeological dig is fitting.

I would also say the quality of acting is still superior to that of most episodes the franchise produced overall. You can tell it was looked at as drama and not melodrama. At least initially. The direction was also damn good. I wish they would have stuck with the handheld stuff (whoever did it was fantastic). Almost as good as Fred J. Koenekamp's work on "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.".

Trivia: On this day, March 30 1967, "The Alternative Factor" first aired.
 
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I agree with much of what you say. There was a lot of character interaction/development/exposition in this early episode that 's was lacking in later ones when they decided to concentrate on the three main characters.
Uhura's criticism of Spock and Spock's reaction when told of a death on the planet, Kirk's hassling of McCoy on the planet, Rand and Uhura's interaction with the creature.
In regards to the creature. I think it lost its chances when it came on board disguised as one of the crew.Kirk didn't know its motivations. It could have come on board to take over the ship. We the audience knew it didn't have such grand plans but was it better for Kirk to give the creature the benefit of the doubt or ensure the safety of his crew and ship. The creature had already killed several people and was a shape changer.
Also having Crater as an advocate for the creature didn't do it any favours especially when it killed him.
 
It's true that the approach to the creature was blinkered but it clearly wanted to avoid being caged and had no respect for intelligent life. Probably it preferred the taste of humanoid salt and made a choice to keep killing despite the alternatives.

There is a lot of patronising sexist dialogue in TOS but at least the wolf whistling is from someone Rand knows and clearly understands how to handle. Given that she's also harassed by drunk crewmen in two further episodes she should clearly dress more sensibly. [NB:I am being facetious ]. Given that Rand is harassed in so many of her appearances it makes me feel even more uncomfortable about the assault suffered by the actress later on. Was someone with influence over the scripts acting out a preamble? Very creepy.
 
I would imagine the negotiations would have been pretty straightforward given that all "Nancy" needed was salt and salt is generally plentiful.

Yet the creature still showed an incredible inability to control itself around potential food. If only site-to-site transport had been a thing in 2266 like it was in 2256, they could've just locked on and sent it to the planet. :rofl:

I rewatched "The Mam Trap" just a few days ago and I was shocked at how sexist it was. Imagine how Michael Burnham or Kelvin movie Uhura would react to the comments nameless crewman made at Janice...

One reason, among many, that Discovery simply doesn't fit with TOS. Doesn't make it a good or a bad show, it just is what it is.
 
WARNING: "SPOILERS" AHEAD! :lol:

Started going back over The Original Series on Netflix. First up was "The Man Trap" and it was an interesting watch through modern eyes. This story was basically a simple monster hunt, yet by today's standards there was a shocking absence of empathy even after they knew it was an intelligent being attempting to stave off extinction.

It was really noticeable in the conference room scene when Professor Crater informs them that the creature needs love as much as salt to survive. Not even Spock suggested trying to communicate with it. In fact, he did not even acknowledge the "creature" had any semblance of "humanity."

I would imagine the negotiations would have been pretty straightforward given that all "Nancy" needed was salt and salt is generally plentiful. The unknown alien being was acting from an understandable fear. The Enterprise crew should have reacted better than they did.

I do note the series (and franchise) does becomes more sensitive and empathetic as time went on. Season one's "Devil In The Dark" for example was a somewhat similar story handled much more sympathetically. Of course, we can only chalk this up to the foundation was still not dry (or even necessarily laid) on Gene Roddenberry's "vision" yet. So, in retrospect, the theme of an archeological dig is fitting.

I would also say the quality of acting is still superior to that of most episodes the franchise produced overall. You can tell it was looked at as drama and not melodrama. At least initially. The direction was also damn good. I wish they would have stuck with the handheld stuff (whoever did it was fantastic). Almost as good as Fred J. Koenekamp's work on "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.".

Trivia: On this day, March 30 1967, "The Alternative Factor" first aired.

The story is extremely rough around the edges and numerous goofy scenes exist. Yes, the goal is to introduce characters but during odd times while on the bridge and other places.

Kirk is almost the opposite of what he becomes in later episodes, but many characters were definitely needing smoothing out. (Which you pointed out :) ) Gene's vision was there but having a failed pilot and a revamp, I also suspect the writers had to deal with so much more to get anything onto the screen at all in terms of adult storylines, since the show was hailed at the time as an adult, more intelligent sci-fi show instead of the usual kiddie paper mache monster romps (e.g. 'Lost in Space'). And not just for story, but character - Martin Luther King Jr was right in Uhura just being on the bridge being significant. Without the real history and social context, any kid today would just slag the character as 'glorified telephone receptionist', which is unfair. But said kid did not grow up nor read up on the 1960s to understand the genuine importance of having a presence at all. And later seasons would squeak in some lines - while I rag on season 2's "Adonis", one such line of worthiness is Spock stressing the importance of how only Uhura could get the job done. That's big, regardless. TV has evolved since then, but without stuff like this and other shows we would never have seen the industry evolve and improve at all.

The basic plot, which hints at where the show would go as the writers and makers put out something and see what can change, is there. Bug-eye or not, the salt vampire is shown to be more than just a big scary monster of the week. Even if the plot descends that way toward the end. Just give it salt and a good home, the way the Professor had. The gist of the story is that the creature got all paranoid and misstep after misunderstanding went out of control, but still. It wasn't sure how much sentience the creature should or should not have (BillJ rightly points out the variable level of control it's displaying) and I might argue they missed out on the possibility to the extent deserved.

Note: I wasn't alive in the 1960s but had read up a little. I would never say I'd know enough, there's always something new to learn about the era and its significances and its tragedies in a real world setting.
 
The story is extremely rough around the edges and numerous goofy scenes exist. Yes, the goal is to introduce characters but during odd times while on the bridge and other places.

I liked the roughish look and feel. Everyone still had their "hungry for work" aura. I think there was also the matter of episodes being shown out of production order.

Kirk is almost the opposite of what he becomes in later episodes, but many characters were definitely needing smoothing out.

And Spock as well. In this episode he was still not afraid to smile nor did he even bring up the topic of maybe there was another way.

Gene's vision was there but having a failed pilot and a revamp, I also suspect the writers had to deal with so much more to get anything onto the screen at all in terms of adult storylines, since the show was hailed at the time as an adult, more intelligent sci-fi show instead of the usual kiddie paper mache monster romps (e.g. 'Lost in Space').

Here I think you hit the nail on the head. "The Cage" was rejected, according to lore, for being "too cerebral" and the pressure was on to provide a more action-oriented adventure. That imperative, more than anything else, probably shaped the direction and tone at that specific point in time. Once they got the official order they were freed up to be a bit more "visionary."

… Martin Luther King Jr was right in Uhura just being on the bridge being significant. Without the real history and social context, any kid today would just slag the character as 'glorified telephone receptionist', which is unfair.

Again, we reach. It really is important for folks to be able to project themselves into our collective dreams and fantasies of the future. For that they must have characters that represent them. Whoopi Goldberg provides a wonderful expression this.

But said kid did not grow up nor read up on the 1960s to understand the genuine importance of having a presence at all. And later seasons would squeak in some lines - while I rag on season 2's "Adonis", one such line of worthiness is Spock stressing the importance of how only Uhura could get the job done. That's big, regardless. TV has evolved since then, but without stuff like this and other shows we would never have seen the industry evolve and improve at all.

That is, in part, why I worry when they go back to "re-master" things. The art direction, effects, and specific bits of writing (especially the inherent general sexism) helps frame the series and establish the context of time in which it was produced.

... Bug-eye or not, the salt vampire is shown to be more than just a big scary monster of the week. Even if the plot descends that way toward the end. Just give it salt and a good home, the way the Professor had. The gist of the story is that the creature got all paranoid and misstep after misunderstanding went out of control, but still. It wasn't sure how much sentience the creature should or should not have

It was revealed to be more than just a MotW (early on actually), and that is part of my point and why this episode is anomalous in terms of the characters we would come to know and love as well as the tone of the stories this series would go on to tell (almost immediately after this one). My point is the command crew of the Enterprise never even brought up or considered a line of action other than it's destruction. They knew they could communicate with it. They knew it was intelligent. They knew it was the last of its kind meaning there was an element of genocide in their response. Despite all this they never even brought up options. ANY options!

I rewatched "The Man Trap" just a few days ago and I was shocked at how sexist it was. Imagine how Michael Burnham or Kelvin movie Uhura would react to the comments nameless crewman made at Janice...

Agreed. The next episode "Charlie X" was almost as bad. In fact the sexism runs throughout the series, however, it was also quite progressive (for it's time). I would never say "misogynistic" and their is a big difference. But, yeah, through modern eyes it can be quite cringe inducing.
 
... One reason, among many, that Discovery simply doesn't fit with TOS. Doesn't make it a good or a bad show, it just is what it is.

Why the idea of prequels strike me as "no win scenarios." Especially to things long running and where they are directly competing with the multitude of fans imaginations and preconceived notions. That is a prospect the cast and crew of a show are never going to win. EVER! I enjoy Star Trek Discovery, however, I have expressed points where they have offended my particular sensibilities, and that's with me giving them every benefit of the doubt. We can't help it.

People are linear. Going forward is fine for it is how we experience life. Going backwards is unnatural to our perceptions and invites scrutiny.
 
I rewatched "The Mam Trap" just a few days ago and I was shocked at how sexist it was. Imagine how Michael Burnham or Kelvin movie Uhura would react to the comments nameless crewman made at Janice...
Is that an alternate title for " The Red Angel"?
Yet the creature still showed an incredible inability to control itself around potential food. If only site-to-site transport had been a thing in 2266 like it was in 2256, they could've just locked on and sent it to the planet. :rofl:
It was a thing in 2268, so it was probably a thing in 2266.
 
And put some frakking shuttles in "The Enemy Within"!
That would have been an easy get out . "We can't use shuttles due to upper atmospheric disturbance."

Miri on the other hand...
"We've all been infected... Mister Scott , beam us up."
"Welcome back, Cap'n. Bio-filters have worked a treat but we also have some of that decontamination gel you ordered, just in case..."
"I'll take it to my quarters. After you, Yeoman."'
 
And not just for story, but character - Martin Luther King Jr was right in Uhura just being on the bridge being significant. Without the real history and social context, any kid today would just slag the character as 'glorified telephone receptionist', which is unfair. But said kid did not grow up nor read up on the 1960s to understand the genuine importance of having a presence at all. And later seasons would squeak in some lines - while I rag on season 2's "Adonis", one such line of worthiness is Spock stressing the importance of how only Uhura could get the job done. That's big, regardless. TV has evolved since then, but without stuff like this and other shows we would never have seen the industry evolve and improve at all.

I agree with you here. As a girl watching Star Trek re-runs in the 70s I was amazed that Uhura (a woman) was a part of the bridge crew. No questions about her ability. People forget that at the time women didn't serve on military ships or planes.
Its easy to dismiss it now as nothing but I was there in the 79s/80s and it was significant to me.
 
Finished "The Enemy Within." What a brilliant episode! A definite "A."

There's a clip on YouTube of the old Tom Snyder "Tomorrow Show" with several Doohan, Kelley, and Koenig along with Harlan Ellison. Ellison was polite for the most part until, towards the program's end, he says to the effect that Star Trek, even at its best, could only tell stories in mediocre fashion due to the nature of the beast that is television. I disagree (as did Doohan, Kelley and Koenig). "The Enemy Within" is an example of The Original Series of exceeding that threshold of mediocrity.

It was gave us perhaps one of Shatner's best performances in the series. Split in two by a transporter malfunction we get a peak into the duality of humanity. Our aggressive and impulsive side versus our passive and intellectual side. We are shown that it takes two to tango and a divided James T. Kirk does not a captain make as he needs both the dark and light sides of his personality to be who we know him to be.

It was written by Richard Matheson, one of the most beloved writers of my generation. Even if you don't know his name or even most of his work by title I can say if you grew up in the 50s, 60s or 70s you experienced his work on both the big and small screens. To state his career was prolific reads as an understatement. Matheson gave the story a clear humanity. It was more than a retelling of Jekyll and Hyde.

To complicate things you get the Alfred Hitchcock ticking time bomb for suspense in the landing party stuck on a freezing planet. You also get the added complication of Kirk not wanting to fully disclose the situation for fear of undermining the appearance of command (though that still doesn't excuse the dopey crewman thinks nothing of handing his phaser over to Evil Kirk without even challenging him :lol:).

Sadly, this episode also goes a long way in explaining why they were right to move on from Yeoman Rand. I don't have any problems with Grace Lee or her character per se aside from the sexual tension between her and the captain seemed to cross a line even back then.

Loved Spock's speech about reconciling his two sides. Probably his best monologue of the series as well. Definitely the one that pushed the character over the edge in terms of sex symbol. If they could have wrote in a leather jacket and an interstellar Harley Davidson for him to ride this show would have been top 5 programs at least.

Anyway, I loved this chapter. Not in my "Top 5" however in it is "Top 10" to me.
 
Finished "The Enemy Within." What a brilliant episode! A definite "A."

There's a clip on YouTube of the old Tom Snyder "Tomorrow Show" with several Doohan, Kelley, and Koenig along with Harlan Ellison. Ellison was polite for the most part until, towards the program's end, he says to the effect that Star Trek, even at its best, could only tell stories in mediocre fashion due to the nature of the beast that is television. I disagree (as did Doohan, Kelley and Koenig). "The Enemy Within" is an example of The Original Series of exceeding that threshold of mediocrity.

It was gave us perhaps one of Shatner's best performances in the series. Split in two by a transporter malfunction we get a peak into the duality of humanity. Our aggressive and impulsive side versus our passive and intellectual side. We are shown that it takes two to tango and a divided James T. Kirk does not a captain make as he needs both the dark and light sides of his personality to be who we know him to be.

It was written by Richard Matheson, one of the most beloved writers of my generation. Even if you don't know his name or even most of his work by title I can say if you grew up in the 50s, 60s or 70s you experienced his work on both the big and small screens. To state his career was prolific reads as an understatement. Matheson gave the story a clear humanity. It was more than a retelling of Jekyll and Hyde.

To complicate things you get the Alfred Hitchcock ticking time bomb for suspense in the landing party stuck on a freezing planet. You also get the added complication of Kirk not wanting to fully disclose the situation for fear of undermining the appearance of command (though that still doesn't excuse the dopey crewman thinks nothing of handing his phaser over to Evil Kirk without even challenging him :lol:).

Sadly, this episode also goes a long way in explaining why they were right to move on from Yeoman Rand. I don't have any problems with Grace Lee or her character per se aside from the sexual tension between her and the captain seemed to cross a line even back then.

Loved Spock's speech about reconciling his two sides. Probably his best monologue of the series as well. Definitely the one that pushed the character over the edge in terms of sex symbol. If they could have wrote in a leather jacket and an interstellar Harley Davidson for him to ride this show would have been top 5 programs at least.

Anyway, I loved this chapter. Not in my "Top 5" however in it is "Top 10" to me.
Shatner is great in this one. I also love Sulu's dialogue. I'm clear why they couldn't send down electrical equipment but why not tents, coats, gloves, and chemicals that create heat when they react?

I always felt that Rand's loss stripped something important from the show. Chapel got a focus in her intro episode but essentially as a guest star. Rand is the only recurring female to be the focus of a story and presumably would have been so again had she stayed.

It's true, they laboured on her attraction to Kirk too often and too openly, and they left her out of stories where she could have been a great protagonist, but look at how Harlan Ellison portrayed her in his initial CotEoF script. The overt attraction had to go; the character could have stayed.
 
It's true, they laboured on her attraction to Kirk too often and too openly, and they left her out of stories where she could have been a great protagonist, but look at how Harlan Ellison portrayed her in his initial CotEoF script. The overt attraction had to go; the character could have stayed.
Agreed. Drop the love angle or tone it down into nothing. TOS really needed some professional women. Rand could have been like a sergeant in charge of the enlisted getting stuff done.
Someone said she was intended to be a confident of Spock. If that were the case then she would have had to display some talent not just looks.

Having her crushing onto Kirk in obvious or immature ways made me cringe. I have no problem with Rand in "Man Trap", "Charlie X" as she showed some spunk. Even in :Miri while she revealed her crush it was under pressure and they didn't dwell on it
In "The Enemy Within" I just felt she was acting too young like a 20 year old when clearly she'd shown in "Charlie X" that she didn't take crap from anyone and was more mature - Kirk's peer I think Grace did well with the script but think that they wrote it for a younger actress.
 
I agree with you here. As a girl watching Star Trek re-runs in the 70s I was amazed that Uhura (a woman) was a part of the bridge crew. No questions about her ability. People forget that at the time women didn't serve on military ships or planes.
Its easy to dismiss it now as nothing but I was there in the 79s/80s and it was significant to me.
Yep. The first official women pilots in the US Armed forced were in 1974 (link), albeit the civil WASPs (link) were there decades earlier.
 
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