There are at least two other specifies of shapeshifter in Trek. Probably more, depending on the writers 
No need for it to be connected to the Founders.
No need for it to be connected to the Founders.
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Huh... Holy shit - you're right! They likely used Changeling DNA specifically to allow him to shift between forms. Didn't even occur to me...But he shape shifted.
Can you just imagine how kick ass Dal is going to be when he is older serving onboard the Enterprise F under Captain Seven of Nine?! He might be *severely* over powered though but that would make him such a good asset to the crew.
He won't be allowed to serve in Starfleet.
Their loss.
Yup.Their loss.
we’ll see about that.
Obviously.
Depends. Bashir had a whole career as evidence. Dal has nothing. Not saying it isn't possible but I see it just as possible for him to find another place. It would be nice to show the Federation as more, much more, than Starfleet.
Dal has only had one season to prove himself, there may be many more seasons to come and who knows what else he might do. He could still even stop the Romulan supernova, for example.
There is also the question of why augments are still banned from Starfleet in the 24th century after events that took place 400 years ago on *one* of their planets. Is the ban *only* the result of an antiquated law based on a prejudice from a time when there was political upheaval on Earth? Or have other Federation planets had problems with augments too?
Genetic augmentation probably should be illegal or at least *highly* regulated as gene therapy and other genetic procedures can help to cure disease and bring breakthroughs in medical science for the betterment of a species. The actions of those such as Khan and his genetically enhanced soldiers are actions of ego, generational conflicts and politics; crimes of the mind based on ideaology and an idea of supremacy of one group of people over another. These crimes should be judged in a court of ‘human rights’ and war crimes separately from the illegal genetic experimentations.
The agenda and legalities of the geneticists involved in any situation, such as Soong, are down to a Federation court to decide, though the augmented should be judged on their actions and character with a measure of humanity separate from the crimes of their ‘creators’.
Is it that the Federation see it as being that augments have an unfair advantage over others who are not augmented, like athletes enhanced with hormone therapies who take part in competitive sports and interplanetary Olympic Games? Starfleet is not competitive, one species or individuals involuntarily gained genetic traits should not be used to penalize them for having those very abilities that they did *not* ask for.
What about other species who have natural genetic traits which are to their advantage, giving them an edge over others? Should Vulcan’s be banned from Starfleet because of their advanced physical strength over humans? Should Tellarites be ostracised for their enhanced sense of smell and natural immunity to diseases that still affect others? Dal never consented to his augmentations and should be judged on his character, not on his physical attributes whether they be augmented or not. It could be that Starfleet do not want to accept augments because they are worried about the precedent and example that it would set, it would come across as an endorsement for genetic enhancement. However, as we saw with Bashir’s dad, it should be the perpetrator of the crime who is punished, not the involuntary victim who did not choose to be created. These are sins of the father, not of the son or daughter.
Where would the banning of augments stop, as Starfleet are setting yet another set of precedents - prejudice and discrimination. What about other organisations such as the Daystrom Institute or the Federation corps of engineers? Would he be banned from those organizations, and others too? Would he have to go and work as a mercenary for the Klingon Defense Force or a Pirate for the Orion Syndicate or Fenris Ranger’s? If Dal’s option are limited due to what he is, then he may be driven to take less favorable career choices. His unique abilities would still be with him, and if Starfleet did not want to take advantage of those abilities somebody else may want to do so and exploit them. Dal would probably end up getting recruited by Section 31 and indirectly working for Starfleet anyway, the irony being that he would be working in the Federation and Starfleet’s best interests even though the organisations rejected him, or perhaps this would be their intention. Section 31 may try to recruit Dal one day… Dal could yet be another of Janeway’s prodigy’s, driven to lawlessness and piracy.
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He does what Spock and Picard couldn't help?He could still even stop the Romulan supernova, for example.
Spock and Picard only knew about the supernova after the zero hour event which led to it slowly going supernova, they never discovered the cause of this galactic event. Dal and the crew could still potentially stop this zero hour event as it is in their future, so the nova could be resolved as a result of any of the following:
- Dal’s potential genetic temporal Intuition, he could foresee the event and help to stop it, especially if the nova is connected to the Living Construct - this could be part of his purpose, protecting the timeline.
- Future knowledge from the time traveling Diviner or Drednok - they may even want to wipe out Starfleet and the Romulan’s in one go, being the masterminds behind the nova.
- A warning from a faction in the temporal Cold War/Future Janeway about the nova.
Preventing the Romulan sun going nova could even have the same effects as stopping the assassination of Klingon Chancellor Azetbur did on Khitomer, leading to peace negotiations which bring the Federation and Romulan Empire closer together, eventually leading to peaceful reunification with the Vulcan’s. Dal might even be recognized for his actions and be allowed to enter Starfleet academy.
I hate it when I click in to the fan fiction forum by mistake...Spock and Picard only knew about the supernova after the zero hour event which led to it slowly going supernova, they never discovered the cause of this galactic event. Dal and the crew could still potentially stop this zero hour event as it is in their future, so the nova could be resolved as a result of any of the following:
The future is yet to be written, and we have no indication that the destruction of Romulus is a fixed point in time which *needs* to happen. The JJ universe with the destruction of Romulus could just become another part of the ‘multiverse of Trek’, but I believe that preventing the destruction of Romulus would set the ‘prime timeline’ back to normal. This would leave Star Trek with a clean slate after a ‘soft’ in series reboot ready for a potential 25th century Star Trek series. This would explain why Picard season 1 and 2 were not ‘quite right’ and a bit dystopian, and would also allow for characters from Picard season 1 and 2 to return. It could even explain why Elnor appeared back on the Excelsior bridge at the end of Picard season 2 as a Starfleet officer, we have no evidence that Q did this? It could have been the result of a timeline reset.
- Dal’s potential genetic temporal Intuition, he could foresee the event and help to stop it, especially if the nova is connected to the Living Construct - this could be part of his purpose, protecting the timeline.
- Future knowledge from the time traveling Diviner or Drednok - they may even want to wipe out Starfleet and the Romulan’s in one go, being the masterminds behind the nova.
- A warning from a faction in the temporal Cold War/Future Janeway about the nova.
Preventing the Romulan sun going nova could even have the same effects as stopping the assassination of Klingon Chancellor Azetbur did on Khitomer, leading to peace negotiations which bring the Federation and Romulan Empire closer together, eventually leading to peaceful reunification with the Vulcan’s. Dal might even be recognized for his actions and be allowed to enter Starfleet academy.
Still,very bad look for Dal to one up Spock, time travel or not.
All Star Trek is fan fiction, hopefully. Only fans should write it, not those that just want a cushy job in Hollywood with an inbuilt and already established fan base.
Fan fiction only becomes canon when there is a studio willing to put money in to it and produce it. JJ Abrams is a fan, to some his movies are fan fiction, to others they are canon - the only thing that sets JJ Abrams vision apart from a fan fic project such as Axanar is a big studio backing and supporting him.
No.
Hell no.All Star Trek is fan fiction, hopefully. Only fans should write it, not those that just want a cushy job in Hollywood with an inbuilt and already established fan base.
The difference is the copyright holder asked him to make his story. By definition not fan fiction.
And the studio is going to hire someone who actually has some writing and producing credits in Hollywood rather than some guy they've never heard of before with nothing to his name.
Why are you assuming that the show runner of Star Trek even needs to be a male? No one person should have total control over Star Trek, it should be a consortium of fans making the creative decisions working together as a team. Star Trek is not about making a name for yourself as a writer or producer, some people may even want to add to the ‘canon’ Star Trek universe anonymously out of love for the franchise. This is all very similar to what is happening with domestic football in the UK, the fans want to take their teams back from people who buy the football clubs up for exploitation of fan loyalty for a guaranteed profit. The Glazier's at Manchester United are a perfect example of people with money buying a franchise and letting it stagnate as a result of exploitation of a fanbase for profit or a vested agenda… this could quite easily be done with Star Trek too if it has not already happened, the license holder of Star Trek should be a regulator not a profiteer. Star Trek probably does not make much money though tbh, it is a niche market in the shadow of Star Wars.
I wasn't. That was my mistake. But that doesn't change my point.
Tell that to CBS/Paramount.
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