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Stadi's shuttle

The_Baroness

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I've never ever spotted this before.
Was just watching Caretaker again. The shuttle that Stadi is piloting to take Paris to voyager at Deep Space Nine isn't a Voyager shuttle.
It has the 1701-D registry.

It's from the Enterprise!
 
The space around DS9 could of course have been swarming with random shuttles from random ships, the camera accidentally following the wrong one for a while. :devil:

There should have been other ships around, I mean. How did Paris or Kim arrive there in the first place?

Timo Saloniemi
 
TOS did it all the time. Even for Lokai's shuttle. 1701/7 got around quite a bit! :biggrin:

Now where 1701/1 through 1701/6 went to, we never saw...

So VOY just continued some of the style of TOS. :devil:
 
The space around DS9 could of course have been swarming with random shuttles from random ships, the camera accidentally following the wrong one for a while. :devil:

Makes perfect sense. Was the Ent-D still in service at Voyagers launch?
There should have been other ships around, I mean. How did Paris or Kim arrive there in the first place?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Makes perfect sense. Was the Ent-D still in service at Voyagers launch?

The Ent-D was destroyed some time in 2371, and VOY season 1 takes place in 2371. If we go the confusing route of trying to make sense of stardates, then Voyager was launched on stardate 48038.5 according to the ship's dedication plaque, and the Enterprise survivors were being picked up after the crash on stardate 48650.1 according to Picard's captain's log. In "Caretaker," Janeway records a stardate of 48315.6 in her log. So assuming those numbers are chronological, then the Ent-D was in service at the time when Voy was at DS9.

Kor
 
And of course Picard would take every opportunity to visit his hobby-horse of a planet. He only managed that once in an aired adventure after "Emissary" (to wit, "Birthright"), but there could have been other visits (see multiple references to Riker/Quark interaction), and delivering Tom and/or Harry could have been part of his excuse here.

Timo Saloniemi
 
The Ent-D was destroyed some time in 2371, and VOY season 1 takes place in 2371. If we go the confusing route of trying to make sense of stardates, then Voyager was launched on stardate 48038.5 according to the ship's dedication plaque, and the Enterprise survivors were being picked up after the crash on stardate 48650.1 according to Picard's captain's log. In "Caretaker," Janeway records a stardate of 48315.6 in her log. So assuming those numbers are chronological, then the Ent-D was in service at the time when Voy was at DS9.

Yes, as was discussed in the Voyager inconsistencies thread, Voyager disappears before the Enterprise crashes.
 
Oh dear! I've tried to come up with a decent explanation for this but I can't find any good one.

But maybe it happened this way: Voyager was a new ship on a new mission. Before the mission to The Badlands to get Tuvok back and arrest Chakotay and his Maquis, Voyager was docked at Deep Space Nine. Obviously there was some maintaince work on the shuttles then and they borrowed a shuttle from the Enterprise which Stadi used to transport Paris to the station.
 
I think the question is, where exactly did they come from?

Did Janeway really take Voyager's helm officer and go to Earth to pick up Tom Paris in a shuttlecraft? Those things can barely break Warp 4 from what I remember.

Caretaker takes place between "All Good Things' and "Generations". Ent-D was active. Picard was an advocate for Bajor joining the Federation. Maybe it was the Ent-D (unseen) doing the milkruns between Earth and Bajor. Having hitched a ride, the ship was in orbit over the planet doing diplomatic things while Janeway and Stadi borrowed a shuttlecraft to nip across the system to DS9.
 
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The logistics of this are a bit on the non-sequitur side, much like the inane dialogue in the DSC pilot episode: we get cool introductions, but they make no real sense in-universe.

Where is Tom coming from? More importantly, where is he going? Not to Voyager, since he's next seen stationside, and is yet to report to the ship at that time. So, did Stadi fetch him from a location other than the ship or the station? A starship that was not docked to the station, and had no interest in docking (plenty of those are seen hovering in the background in the later episodes)? Unlikely - Tom could have simply beamed over, then. More probably, Stadi would have been fetching Paris all the way from Bajor, a doable trip for a shuttle.

Alternately, Paris has already arrived at DS9, and is getting a pure sightseeing tour. But Stadi sounds like the last person interested in giving one to him. That is, she's eager to rattle off the specs of her ship, perhaps to a fellow helm officer even, but she appears to be making an exception in case of Tom...

Where did Harry come from? If from Bajor, why not share a ride with Tom? It's not as if Tom were being hauled around in secrecy, or in chains and under guard.

How many ships fly from Earth to DS9 per week, at that time and age? Would it be reasonable for our two heroes to take different ships? Kim could of course be coming from some other point of origin altogether, but we'd then lose the "really fresh out of the Academy" angle to his character. So perhaps Harry just arrived on the E-D, which chose not to dock because of the congestion caused by Janeway's ride, and this is where the other shuttle came from... (We'd then certainly expect a Janeway vs. Picard kowtow where issues of high moral standards are being discussed over a shared cup of tea or coffee, with Sisko left seething outside for his lack of a proper starship!)

Timo Saloniemi
 
Transporters must have been down that day on DSN, Voyager and whatever ship brought Kim and Paris, after all why use a shuttle.
 
Only in one shot though.
Indeed. In the three exterior shots we see of the shuttle, there's a different registry each time. The first time it's 74656, Voyager's registry, then the next shot it's 1701-D, the Enterprise, then in the last it's 71325, which doesn't correspond to any known starship.
 
Indeed. In the three exterior shots we see of the shuttle, there's a different registry each time. The first time it's 74656, Voyager's registry, then the next shot it's 1701-D, the Enterprise, then in the last it's 71325, which doesn't correspond to any known starship.

Also, I don't think we ever saw any evidence that Voyager even had any Type 6 shuttles in her standard complement, didn't we only ever see Type 9's? (or Class 2's, as they were also called).

So here's a crazy internal head-canon, since shuttles are pretty generic and can easily be reassigned to other starships, their hull registries are written in e-Ink and can be changed by computer command. During the trip from Bajor to DS9, Paris was bored, so idly messed with a console and changed to something random, and then to match Voyager. It's a low priority, unprotected system, and he likes to fiddle.
 
Also, I don't think we ever saw any evidence that Voyager even had any Type 6 shuttles in her standard complement, didn't we only ever see Type 9's? (or Class 2's, as they were also called).
They Type9/Class 2 wasn't introduced until the second season, Threshold to be specific. They Type 6 was indeed featured on Voyager 14 times, according to Memory Alpha, 10 of which were on Voyager itself. The other four are Caretaker, and three of the Alpha Quadrant episodes in the later season. Memory Alpha also claims there was a Type 6 on the Equinox, though they may just be taking a literal interpretation of the MSD to make that claim.

Just for completism, there was also a Type 8 shuttlecraft which was featured quite a bit on Voyager as well
 
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