Spock's character is overexposed?

[Ssosmcin]

Having the conn in those instances may not count. Kirk was on board, Spock was just the senior officer on the bridge. Being in command when Kirk is off ship? Maybe...but both of these tend to amount to "Keep 'er warm for me, I'll be back in a bit."

But The Galileo Seven was the first episode where Spock was given a specific mission, a ship and crew he was directly responsible for. So I'm thinking that's what they were driving at.

In context of production order of a TV series, it's fine. But the moment they said the mission to Talos IV was "13 years ago" they made it questionable.

 

[Mudd]

Having the conn in those instances may not count. Kirk was on board, Spock was just the senior officer on the bridge. Being in command when Kirk is off ship? Maybe...but both of these tend to amount to "Keep 'er warm for me, I'll be back in a bit."

But The Galileo Seven was the first episode where Spock was given a specific mission, a ship and crew he was directly responsible for. So I'm thinking that's what they were driving at.

Which was nonsense.

This man rose to second in command of a starship, having served in Starfleet for well over a decade, and never commanded so much as a landing party?

Nah.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Which was nonsense.

This man rose to second in command of a starship, having served in Starfleet for well over a decade, and never commanded so much as a landing party?

Nah.

Well yeah which is why I said it worked okay in the context of a 1960's TV series until they decided to expand his backstory in The Menagerie. The moment you knew he was on the Enterprise for over a decade, not only it made "my first command" nonsense, it his being unable to command humans effectively kind of weird. He had more than enough experience with them.

But, real world, it was a TV show finding its way and it was the first episode where he had a specific mission and crew to command.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Yeah, this series is gonna rock out with its Spock out.

I dunno rocking with your Spock out could catch you an indecent exposure charge.

 

[BillJ]

This man rose to second in command of a starship, having served in Starfleet for well over a decade, and never commanded so much as a landing party?

Damned Affirmative Action for Vulcans!!! Next thing you know, they'll be giving them their own starships!!!

 

[dupersuper]

Having the conn in those instances may not count. Kirk was on board, Spock was just the senior officer on the bridge. Being in command when Kirk is off ship? Maybe...but both of these tend to amount to "Keep 'er warm for me, I'll be back in a bit."

But The Galileo Seven was the first episode where Spock was given a specific mission, a ship and crew he was directly responsible for. So I'm thinking that's what they were driving at.

I agree, which means any time Spock has the con is this show will not be a canon violation. Can we just cut off that complaint pre-emptively?

 

[Ronald Held]

Pike always led landing parties, leaving no opportunity for Spock to do so?

 

[Mudd]

Pike always led landing parties, leaving no opportunity for Spock to do so?

It doesn't matter. If he's never had a command, Spock would not be Kirk's first officer.

 

[Yistaan]

Spock was so disgusted with his crewmembers during Pike's command that he later denied ever leading them in missions. There, problem solved.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Retcon away! Problem solved.

 

[Yistaan]

Retcon away! Problem solved.

As much as I'd like to claim this retcon as my own idea, I basically borrowed it from the old Star Wars Legends comic book 'The Stark Hyperspace War', which ended with Nute Gunray denying he ever faced a Jedi (despite facing tons of them in this very comic) so that it could line up with his dialogue in the Phantom Menace denying he ever faced one. Really.

 

[Voodoowoman2]

Well now that Spock has discovered his great destiny whom, everyone must stand aside for, it has indeed become the Spock show and I do not approve.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well now that Spock has discovered his great destiny whom, everyone must stand aside for, it has indeed become the Spock show and I do not approve.

Whut???

 

[Noname Given]

Well now that Spock has discovered his great destiny whom, everyone must stand aside for, it has indeed become the Spock show and I do not approve.

You've ever really actually watched TOS have you.

 

[Sci]

You've ever really actually watched TOS have you.

Yeah, the "Spock is Over-Exposed" ship sailed in 1966.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, in a little series called Star Trek Spock was the costar with Captain Kurt, or something like that. It's an old show...may not have heard of Dr. Spock.

 

[Noname Given]

Well, in a little series called Star Trek Spock was the costar with Captain Kurt, or something like that. It's an old show...may not have heard of Dr. Spock.

Is that the one where he expouses child rearing advice?

 

[fireproof78]

Is that the one where he expouses child rearing advice?

I think so.

 

[Dee1891]

Spock was overexposed in "TOS".

 

[Ssosmcin]

I'm not sure how the second lead in a TV series was "overexposed." It's not as if Spock took over the series ala Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. He was the second lead. "Also starring."

This is a weird conversation.