So, anyone here ready to declare this the best Star Trek film yet?

[leftybanks]

I've been watching Trek since '66, and I think fans should just level with themselves.

This movie is in a Trek class by itself, and that class is an order of magnitude better than any of the others.

By what standard?

By all the usual ones. Trek movies at best have received 2-1/2 stars from critics. That's what WOK gets. The critical reviews for this movie have been excellent -- three stars or higher; and as I've seen it twice, I agree.

I saw STIV when it came out in theaters and I recall it getting very very good critical reviews. Rotten Tomatoes didn't exist then so there's no easily accessible data to verify how high a rating it would have earned. Same goes with WOK.

Moreover, I don't see how a ratings aggregator suddenly creates objective data that trumps subjective opinion. I think it's cool if YOU really like the film but you can't turn to Rotten Tomatoes as proof that's it's "good" for everyone.

 

[Jeri]

I saw STIV when it came out in theaters and I recall it getting very very good critical reviews...

You don't recall STIV getting three stars and above from nearly every critic. None of them did.

I plainly said this movie is in a class by itself; and it is.