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Section 31 and the Enterprise-C

We won't see that in the "trading card" they'll hopefully release tonight. It'll be the same promotional image we saw a few weeks back. It's the write-up that interest me.
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Georgiou’s picture was different from what they previously released, yes?

What’s interesting is that the outfit she’s wearing has similarities to the TFF commando uniforms. Yet another possibility that they did their homework.
 
The phaser is reminiscent of the TWOK phaser, perhaps one of the later marks. More solid homework given the Enterprise-C had a slightly modified version themselves.
 
So she couldn't go back to the Mirror Universe. I assume that means she's going to eventually die from her "Being in the Wrong Universe" Syndrome. Interesting we don't any sign of the disease in the trailer.
Not exactly. The timelines slowly diverged and The Guardian put her back where they were closer together, allowing her body to stay composed. Being only a 100 years apart vs. a 1000 probably has an impact.
 
So Mirror Georgiou works for Section 31 AFTER being in the 32nd century. As in the Section 31 that's ruthlessly covetous of any and all information in the name of safeguarding the Federation and doesn't give a **** about Temporal Prime Directives, classified information that they don't already have access to, and spore drive bans. That Section 31.

How does Section 31 not already have a full fledged new spore drive by the time of TNG and future knowledge of the Burn long before the Burn even happens?
 
So Mirror Georgiou works for Section 31 AFTER being in the 32nd century. As in the Section 31 that's ruthlessly covetous of any and all information in the name of safeguarding the Federation and doesn't give a **** about Temporal Prime Directives, classified information that they don't already have access to, and spore drive bans. That Section 31.

How does Section 31 not already have a full fledged new spore drive by the time of TNG and future knowledge of the Burn long before the Burn even happens?
Are Emperors regularly experts in running and building spore drives? Seems a bit below their paygrade. As for the Burn, how much does she know?
 
So Mirror Georgiou works for Section 31 AFTER being in the 32nd century. As in the Section 31 that's ruthlessly covetous of any and all information in the name of safeguarding the Federation and doesn't give a **** about Temporal Prime Directives, classified information that they don't already have access to, and spore drive bans. That Section 31.

How does Section 31 not already have a full fledged new spore drive by the time of TNG and future knowledge of the Burn long before the Burn even happens?
Because she doesn't know the details.

I'd they don't care, as you say, they'd hunt down Stamets in some universe or time and recruit him.
 
How does Section 31 not already have a full fledged new spore drive by the time of TNG
Because they can't find a tardigrade to either control it or provide a DNA transfusion to someone to control it?
future knowledge of the Burn long before the Burn even happens?
So Georgiou knows some day in the distant future all dilithium will explode. What good will this knowledge do anyone? Remember, Georgiou doesn't know what caused the Burn, as that was learned after she left the 32nd century. So there's no information she can provide which could prevent it. And it's probably not a high priority for anyone in the 24th century since with the exception of El-Aurians and Lanthanites, everyone will be dead of natural causes long before the Burn happens anyway.
 
All they have to do is have computer generated versions of Garrett and Castillo and *boom* instant love.

Just use the 3d wall, and OTOY's recreation of Enterprise C and things are solid again from the fan side.
 

So that this clickbait site doesn't get clicks, here is all the article says on the matter:

After talking to cast members Omari Hardwick, Kacey Rohl, Robert Kazinsky, and Michelle Yeoh—who appeared via a live feed from Prague—Osunsanmi took questions from the audience. Asked whether the film, which Osunsanmi revealed would be released on Paramount+ on January 24, could lead to a series, he said, “the more you love it, the possibilities are endless,” to big cheers from the audience.

And the cheers got even bigger when the fan asked Oscar-winner Yeoh whether she would be able to do a series if such an opportunity presented itself. “I’ll always be available for Section 31,” she said.

So basically he's just going the Terry "Legacy" Matalas route. "I'm going to be very vague, but make it sound like we're going to do an entire series if CBS/Paramount hears your cheers loud enough!"

Which is pretty silly, considering that CBS/Paramount made this movie specifically because they didn't want to make it a series.
 
Which is pretty silly, considering that CBS/Paramount made this movie specifically because they didn't want to make it a series.
Yup, was supposed to be a full blown series at first but then Yeoh won her oscar and I think she became too expensive to be series regular, so they pivoted to tv movie.
I do love the concept of S-31 but I really don't know if a covert ops tv show set in the ST universe can really work.
 
Just use the 3d wall, and OTOY's recreation of Enterprise C and things are solid again from the fan side.
Honestly, if we ever do see the Enterprise C again, I don't want a recreation of the set from Yesterday's Enterprise, which really doesn't fit with the lineage progression from the bridges of the Enterprises A and B. I mean, I get it, Yesterday's Enterprise was a rushed production and the budget was probably already taxed creating an alternate version of the D's bridge and making alternate TNG uniforms, and because of that I am lenient and don't hold it against Yesterday's Enterprise. To say nothing of the fact that from a production point of view, it predates the Enterprise A and B's bridges. But damn it, this is supposed to be an Enterprise and presumably the most advanced ship of its day, it should be a bit more grand looking. Not to mention it's twenty years prior to TNG, so it should look more advanced than the first four TOS movies. And yes, I feel the same way about if we ever see the Stargazer again.

I will say, I remember seeing some fan-made designs of the C's bridge which basically took the D's bridge's general layout done with TUC era aesthetics which looked really nice. Wish I could find them now.
Yup, was supposed to be a full blown series at first but then Yeoh won her oscar and I think she became too expensive to be series regular, so they pivoted to tv movie.
Not exactly. When this was meant to be a TV series filming was scheduled to begin spring 2020, but then the pandemic happened, postponing production. Then other projects Yeoh had lined up became hire priority on account they were movies which were paying her more money, causing Section 31 to go on the backburner. Then Yeoh won her Oscar, which caused Paramount to put pressure on Kurtzman to find a way to make the Section 31 project happen, and TV movie became the best option available.
 
Not exactly. When this was meant to be a TV series filming was scheduled to begin spring 2020, but then the pandemic happened, postponing production. Then other projects Yeoh had lined up became hire priority on account they were movies which were paying her more money, causing Section 31 to go on the backburner. Then Yeoh won her Oscar, which caused Paramount to put pressure on Kurtzman to find a way to make the Section 31 project happen, and TV movie became the best option available.
Thanks for the clarification, guess Reddit's Star Trek boards aren't the most optimal place to get background info on the shows :lol:
 
Honestly, if we ever do see the Enterprise C again, I don't want a recreation of the set from Yesterday's Enterprise, which really doesn't fit with the lineage progression from the bridges of the Enterprises A and B. I mean, I get it, Yesterday's Enterprise was a rushed production and the budget was probably already taxed creating an alternate version of the D's bridge and making alternate TNG uniforms, and because of that I am lenient and don't hold it against Yesterday's Enterprise. To say nothing of the fact that from a production point of view, it predates the Enterprise A and B's bridges. But damn it, this is supposed to be an Enterprise and presumably the most advanced ship of its day, it should be a bit more grand looking. Not to mention it's twenty years prior to TNG, so it should look more advanced than the first four TOS movies. And yes, I feel the same way about if we ever see the Stargazer again.

I would be fine with a suggestion mentioned in another thread, that the Ent-C bridge we saw in YE was actually the ship's battle bridge (it wasn't, but for the purposes of a reimagining, they could say it was), and then show a more advanced looking bridge for the main one. But I wouldn't want them to update the exterior of the ship.

As for the alternate TNG uniforms...didn't they just add a bigger collar to them for the main bridge crew only? The extras just had season 1 uniforms with gray straps and belts added. I don't think that taxed the budget all that much. I would rather they just left them alone and made new uniforms for the Ent-C crew rather than reuse the monster maroons.
 
I would be fine with a suggestion mentioned in another thread, that the Ent-C bridge we saw in YE was actually the ship's battle bridge (it wasn't, but for the purposes of a reimagining, they could say it was), and then show a more advanced looking bridge for the main one.
I'd be okay if they just ignored the YE bridge altogether, but if they did feel a compelling need to acknowledge it, then, yeah, a battle bridge would be acceptable.
As for the alternate TNG uniforms...didn't they just add a bigger collar to them?
As well as adding belts and stripes on the cuffs. Plus the background extras who were still wearing the uniforms from the first two seasons wore a belt and bandolier combo. May it didn't break the bank, but I imagine it was time consuming on an already rushed production schedule.
 
If I was making a Section 31 show, I would make it also be the Temporal Cold War show, and the Dept of Temporal Investigations Show, and make that the entire point of the shadowy outfit, doing whatever is necessary to preserve the timeline, which goes from the forming of the Federation, to the post time-wake 31st.

It could be a lot of fun to see background details and characters and aesthetics change from episode to episode as they muck around with things. No one could complain about ANY of it; it would be baked into the shows formula!
 
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