Referenced but unseen alien species

[TJ Sinclair]

What do you mean by interact? We don't interact with videos, with video games maybe...

Is the term really that hard to parse? We "interact" with characters in a story as we experience it, weather reading, listening or viewing. Is the species "present" in the story? Do we actually "experience" them as more than a referenced name or a voice? Is there something to point to and say "That's them", versus "that's the ship they're in"?

 

[TJ Sinclair]

Iconians

I heard they appear in STO as insectoid but TV/movie sources they are considered extinct.

I don't know where you heard they were insectoid in STO, but that's incorrect.

 

[Tim Thomason]

That's what I'm looking for. A list of all the races that that have been referenced only in dialogue or Okudagrams or whatever. Gallamites, Grizellas, a few variant spellings of Terrellian, the Legarans, the Jarada, they all count for what I'm after.

Alcyone, Alfarian, Altoran, Antidean, Argosian, Arrithean, B'Saari, Baezian, Bardeezan, Barolian, Bendali, Benthan, Benzenite, Berellian, Boray, Bozelian, Briori, Byzallian, Calation, Camorite, Chandran, Chenari, Chrysalian, Coverian, Cravic, D'Arsay, Dachlyd, Dekendi, Demerian, Denebian, Dokkaran, Doosodarian, Draylaxian, Drella, Drellian, Druoda, Entaban, Farn, Fen Domar, Fibonan, Galadoran, Galipotan, Gallamite, Garenor, Gemarian, Genton, Ghorusdan, Golanan, Gorlan, Gree, Grizzela, Haradin, Hur'q, Husnock, Ice-man, Iconian, Ilidarian, Invernian, Ithenite, Jarada, Kalean, Kanarian, Kasseelian, Kellidian, Kerelian, Kinjal, Kmada, Koinonian (original), Kolhari, Kurlan, Lenarian, Leyron, Lortian, Lothra, Lyridian, Lysian, Lyssarian, Lytasian, M'klexa, Malgorian, Malkoth, Manchovite, Markonian, Marlonian, Mathenite, Mawasi, Melthusian, Menthar, Mikulak, Moropa, Morphinian, N'Kree, Nar Shaddan, Nassordin, Nihydron, Noophian, Oolan, Ovion, Parein, Peljenite, Pelosian, Pensarkan, Petarian, Polonian, Ponea, Pralor, Preserver, Proxcinian, Pygorian, Pythron, Ram Izad, Rilnar, Ruji, Rukani, Saltah'na, Sarthongian, Scathos, Serilian, Soyousian, Species 149 & 259 & 262 & 263 & 312 & 5174 & 5973, Stakoran, Subytt, T'lli Betan, T-Rogoran, Taguan, Talavian, Tarahongian, Tarkan, Tarkanian, Tarkannan, Terellian, Terkellian, Terrelian, Tesnian, Trelonian, Tyrellian, Tyrinean, U'tani, Ubean, Vek, Vensiddian, Verathan, Vlugtan, Vojean, Vok'sha, Vostigye, Wogneer creature, Wyngari, Xantoras, Yallitian, Yalosian, Yash-El, Yattho, Yeti, Zevian, Zora Fel

 

[Finn]

We saw a Terrellian on Voyager.

Yes, it was in a hallucination but still.

 

[TJ Sinclair]

We saw a Terrellian on Voyager.

Yes, it was in a hallucination but still.

Yes, we saw a Terrellian. We haven't seen Terellians, Terrelians, or Tyrellians.

 

[TJ Sinclair]

Alcyone, Alfarian, Altoran, Antidean, Argosian, Arrithean, B'Saari, Baezian, Bardeezan, Barolian, Bendali, Benthan, Benzenite, Berellian, Boray, Bozelian, Briori, Byzallian, Calation, Camorite, Chandran, Chenari, Chrysalian, Coverian, Cravic, D'Arsay, Dachlyd, Dekendi, Demerian, Denebian, Dokkaran, Doosodarian, Draylaxian, Drella, Drellian, Druoda, Entaban, Farn, Fen Domar, Fibonan, Galadoran, Galipotan, Gallamite, Garenor, Gemarian, Genton, Ghorusdan, Golanan, Gorlan, Gree, Grizzela, Haradin, Hur'q, Husnock, Ice-man, Iconian, Ilidarian, Invernian, Ithenite, Jarada, Kalean, Kanarian, Kasseelian, Kellidian, Kerelian, Kinjal, Kmada, Koinonian (original), Kolhari, Kurlan, Lenarian, Leyron, Lortian, Lothra, Lyridian, Lysian, Lyssarian, Lytasian, M'klexa, Malgorian, Malkoth, Manchovite, Markonian, Marlonian, Mathenite, Mawasi, Melthusian, Menthar, Mikulak, Moropa, Morphinian, N'Kree, Nar Shaddan, Nassordin, Nihydron, Noophian, Oolan, Ovion, Parein, Peljenite, Pelosian, Pensarkan, Petarian, Polonian, Ponea, Pralor, Preserver, Proxcinian, Pygorian, Pythron, Ram Izad, Rilnar, Ruji, Rukani, Saltah'na, Sarthongian, Scathos, Serilian, Soyousian, Species 149 & 259 & 262 & 263 & 312 & 5174 & 5973, Stakoran, Subytt, T'lli Betan, T-Rogoran, Taguan, Talavian, Tarahongian, Tarkan, Tarkanian, Tarkannan, Terellian, Terkellian, Terrelian, Tesnian, Trelonian, Tyrellian, Tyrinean, U'tani, Ubean, Vek, Vensiddian, Verathan, Vlugtan, Vojean, Vok'sha, Vostigye, Wogneer creature, Wyngari, Xantoras, Yallitian, Yalosian, Yash-El, Yattho, Yeti, Zevian, Zora Fel

That's an excellent start! Thanks, Tim.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Per Memory Alpha:

Tarellians - Plague species seen in early TNG.

Terellians - 4-armed species. Probably Amarie's Unnamed species, but I was leaving speculation out of the list.

Terrelians - Diplomats to the Federation. Tuvok fell in love with one when he was a young child (shades of the Tarellians?) and they also visited DS9.

Terrellians - This is actually two species! Both seen in Voyager and both very different from one another, in physiology and location. The hallucinatory Terrellian fought by young Chakotay was also probably the same species referenced in DS9 and Enterprise. The Delta Quadrant Terrellians were major players in the space race around Drive. There might be a third Terrellian species, if we take deleted scenes into account.

Tyrellians - Practiced laser art. 5 Tyrellians served on the Enterprise-D, meaning we can look at a few of the Unnamed races on that ship and speculate.

 

[Tim Thomason]

That's an excellent start! Thanks, Tim.

This is the "full list" taken from Memory Alpha's category of 579 species and eliminating the ones who made an appearance. I used my more loose definition of "appearance" to not include the Medusans (or Breen! another species covered head to toe in an outer covering), or illusory species like the Q we "never" saw but in the form they appeared in.

We can eliminate further. For example, I'm not convinced that the Zora Fel aren't just some old group of Klingons on Qo'noS, or a mythological creature like the Fek'lhri. And for that matter, I waffled on including Mariner's reference to dealing with Yetis (see also: Ice-man).

Some of these species (Draylaxians, Ithenites), I consider "solved" by BTS info or likely intent, and I know quite a few more have been pegged down in the novelverse by one or two of the more prolific authors.

 

[Annorax849]

Have we ever seen Medusans?

I would hope not

 

[dupersuper]

We're not mad, are we? So the answer is no.

We're all mad here...

Yes, we saw a Terrellian. We haven't seen Terellians, Terrelians, or Tyrellians.

But we have seen Talarians, Tarellians, Tamarians and Tellerites.

 

[TJ Sinclair]

We're all mad here...



But we have seen Talarians, Tarellians, Tamarians and Tellerites.

Indeed. On both counts.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I don't know where you heard they were insectoid in STO, but that's incorrect.

Maybe I'm mixing things up, but I saw a picture and they were very not mammal.

 

[TJ Sinclair]

Maybe I'm mixing things up, but I saw a picture and they were very not mammal.

They're energy beings.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The pictures I'm finding look pretty insectoid, unless they are really those glowing things and the insectoid like bodies are just robot vessels.

 

[TJ Sinclair]

The pictures I'm finding look pretty insectoid, unless they are really those glowing things and the insectoid like bodies are just robot vessels.

This is what they looked like before they evolved to an energy state.

https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Iconian?file=V'Lar.png

In the game, the ancient humanoids from "The Chase" called them "the first of our children."

 

[oldtrekkie]

We're all mad here...



But we have seen Talarians, Tarellians, Tamarians and Tellerites.

I am a little lost, which ones have four arms?

 

[dupersuper]

I am a little lost, which ones have four arms?

Terellians

 

[oldtrekkie]

Terellians

And the one Chakotay is boxing against in his boxing simulation program?

 

[TJ Sinclair]

And the one Chakotay is boxing against in his boxing simulation program?

Terrellians (double r, double l). The Alpha Quadrant version. There's a Delta Quadrant species with the same spelling, from "Drive".

The thing is, we would love to take some of these as alternate spellings of the same species, but there's characteristics that are mutually exclusive in just about every case.

Even Tarellian plague and Terrellian plague can't be the same thing.

What's really odd and/or fortunate, is that whatever was intended, the spellings in the scripts actually line up so far, so those of us tracking of the whole mess can tie the reference to a specific species' spelling without too much difficulty.

The novels/comics aren't so precise, though, and that's not really their fault. Except maybe once, when they had to have been working from the script. The "All Good Things" novelization uses Terellian, when the script uses Terrellian (the same as Chakotay's boxer).

I just know that if Dorothy Fontana (and/or Kellam DeForrest) had been the continuity editor for TNG like she had been for TOS, this whole mess wouldn't have happened. The Tarellians in "Haven" would've been the only ones, except perhaps for the Tyrellians mentioned in "Starship Mine," since there's just enough of a different pronunciation if you enunciate "TY-rellian" instead of "Tuh-rellian."

 

[Sakonna]

Maybe I missed it, did anyone mention the Paragaans on Enterprise? That always sticks in my mind -- "oh, we're about to see some matriarchal aliens on Star Trek for the first time in forever!" And no sooner than that thought entered my head, they were suddenly all incinerated off-screen!

Personally the one I'm dying to see is whatever Vilix'Pran was.