Blind is tricky, but deaf - why not?
Politeness question for little people
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Blind is tricky, but deaf - why not?
But you're not Deaf. You have a handicap because you can hear with one ear and not the other.
The Deaf can't drive a car? They can't play basketball? Really? They can't play music?Not when that sense is not necessary for one to function at work and home. There are those who blissfully get by without the need to hear or see.
It is a disability only when it keeps one from doing something or understand something. For some, it is not an issue.
Like... driving a car and playing basketball.
Or singing and playing music.
True Deaf Culture has completely adapted to not having the ability to hear. Since we're on a Trek board, let me put it this way: The Deaf not being able to hear is the same as Humans on Star Trek not being able to read other people's minds. Counselor Troi couldn't get by without her abilities, but Captain Picard didn't need them. So too is it with the Deaf.
But does a deaf person even understand what he's missing?
First of all, driving cars and playing basketball was about blind people, singing and playing music was about deaf people.
Name me one musician that has been deaf by birth.
I don't think they have one other than to parade their prejudices in the full glare of a global messageboard.
Evelyn Glennie
Indeed. A quick search shows that she went deaf around age 12. She wasn't born that way.
LOL, I'm prejudiced because I say a deaf person can't hear? Being able to hear: a sensory ability. Not being able to hear: a sensory disability.
You're prejudiced because you're presuming to dictate to other people what they can and can't do, be, or call themselves. It's not your call.
I am presuming to dictate that a deaf person can't hear?
This sounds like a mind empty of anything except prejudice:
I'm telling you you're disabled so you fucking well are. Have I got that right?
This whole thread is about treating people like people. You fail.
Last I checked, being deaf or hard of hearing did not grant you a disability card and the right to park in a handicapped spot.
This is slightly out of context, because I was not referring to deaf people only.
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And I responded to that. Blind, deaf, paralyzed, everything.
Only treating people according to their abilities. Would you let someone with F grades in math work as an accountant? Someone who can only draw stick figures paint the Sistine Chapel?
To get back to the original theme: can a "little person" successfully play Basketball against "normal sized" players? Is it really wrong to say "they probably can't"?
What's next? Calling the Paralympics a sign of secret discrimination because the contestants aren't allowed to take part in the Olympics?
Is it really so difficult for you to understand that some people feel the label "disabled" is insulting, regardless of whether or not from a clinical point of view it fits?
The big point you're unwilling to grasp is that being deaf is not a barrier. It does not prevent one from having a meaningful, useful life, and furthermore, it's people like you with you're "oh, you're deaf, you CAN'T" attitude that has created the need for Deaf Culture in the first place.
For all we know someone who failed at school could become an excellent accountant. I dare say many have. You don't decide what people's abilities are. Your arrogance is jaw-dropping.
So is probably the arrogance of the regular staff manager.
Dude, all I'm saying is that it's considered a disability. Hearing impairment is a sensory disability. Look it up if you like. Who said they can't live a useful life? When did I say I'd discriminate them?
Let's say I were a music manager and a deaf person sends me a great demo reel. Done deal. Who cares?
What you guys are doing is the typical overreaction of the PC crowd. Someone says "a blind person can't see", "a paraplegic can't run" and everyone shouts "discrimination!" This is actually what makes it hard for most people to treat people with disabilities right, because they always fear the overreacting backlash. You can't treat people equally if they aren't equal, that's the totally wrong way of dealing with it. People with dwarfism will always need their book shelves a meter lower to the ground, or a ladder to reach them. A paraplegic can't drive a normal car, it needs adjustments. An amputee can't run, unless he gets an appliance. That's a simple truth. Why try to ignore this fact and live in some sort of hypocrisy, and ambush everyone who addresses these differences? That way no one will ever be treated with the proper respect.
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Are you telling me that Captain Picard with Troi's abilities wouldn't have benefited from them at some point in his life?
If somebody offered my future son telepathic powers I would jump on that offer in a heartbeat. Why would I refuse an extra ability, one that does not diminish my son in any other way, that may or may not be useful to his life in the future?
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