News "Police: Fight over Star Wars and Star Trek led to assault"

[Jayson1]

"Please, ignore the juror with a Star Trek uniform, a phaser and a tricorder and who demands to be called 'Commander' and let's talk the present case"

ETA: By the way, she wasn't dismissed because of the uniform, but because he violated the courts directive not to talk to the media.

If your passion for a tv shows drives you to ignore a Judge's order, well, I believe that there is some serious problem here.

Well if she talked to the media then they were right to dismiss her. If they were asking her about her uniform I can see someone making the mistake of talking about something that really has nothing to do with the case at hand. Either way it's a minor infraction at best that is about as bad as lying to get off jury duty or going 5 miles past the speed limit.

Jason

 

[Skipper]

Do you want a positive example of someone who brings her passion for Star Trek in public?

 

[Jayson1]

Do you want a positive example of someone who brings her passion for Star Trek in public?

Of course I don't mind positive example's but most people are just people. Nothing wrong with people just living the life they want even if society looks down on them for no good reason. It's societies role to become more evolved more than it should be people who feel the need to change who they are because people don't like people who are different from them.

Jason

 

[137th Gebirg]

In the case of the "Commander" (clearly an unearned title from any branch of the "real world" military), and the fore-mentioned citation of the wasting of tax dollars, it's society's role and responsibility to smack that person on the head, get their shit together, and stop the weird for the sake of weird, and at everyone else's expense.

If you want to parade around in the privacy of your own home in a Starfleet uniform or nothing at all, go ahead. Not hurting anybody. But when someone tries to impose their "eccentricities" on society and the people in it, forcing an actual, quantifiable fiduciary loss, then no - that dog won't hunt. Society then has a very good reason to look down on them.

It could even be argued that demanding to be addressed as "Commander" in a court of law would fall askance of federal "stolen valor" laws and the impersonation of an officer in the United States military, even if it is a fake uniform. There's just all kinds of "no" about the whole episode that is really logically and rationally indefensible. And it makes the rest of us look like unhinged fucking morons in the eyes of the mundane world.

So yeah, a lot of damage at a lot of levels with this brand of idiocy.

 

[Skipper]

I have to say that if a colleague decided to go to the office in a full Starfleet uniform and asked to be called "commander" (and by absurd the Human Resources decided not to do anything), at best I couldn't take him seriously, at worst I would be a little scared.

 

[Jayson1]

How is she imposing her eccentricities on anyone? Wanting to be called Commander can't be all that different than someone wanting to go by a nickname. Wearing a starfleet uniform doesn't hurt anyone because it's just clothes.

I just find it weird that in some parts of this country someone might be more feared of someone wearing a starfleet outfit than someone carrying a gun in a open carry state. As for the loss of money I just don't see it as a big deal. I'm sure she wasn't the first person to have to be kicked off a jury before. Unless she went their with the intent to cause problems then it doesn't bug me that much.

As for the mundane world I don't see why it's asking them to much to have a more open mind towards people who might seem different or weird. Not to mention that the weird people are usually the more interesting people in life to begin with IMO. They tend to have a more creative soul about them and are curious or interested in things beyond just paying their bills, watching reality tv and doing the "Leave it Beaver" lifestyle.

Jason

 

[Nerys Myk]

How is she imposing her eccentricities on anyone? Wanting to be called Commander can't be all that different than someone wanting to go by a nickname. Wearing a starfleet uniform doesn't hurt anyone because it's just clothes.

It's a costume from a TV show. Plus props

 

[Jayson1]

It's a costume from a TV show. Plus props

I'm not saying it isn't weird. For me I don't mind people who are kind of weird. Also I just don't find it all that far removed from wearing a basketball jersey out in public or some of the stuff that passes for fashion in the world.

Jason

 

[137th Gebirg]

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'm not saying it isn't weird. For me I don't mind people who are kind of weird. Also I just don't find it all that far removed from wearing a basketball jersey out in public or some of the stuff that passes for fashion in the world.

Jason

Except that sports jerseys are sold as clothes, whereas the Starfleet uniform is

a costume from a TV show. Plus props

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm not saying it isn't weird. For me I don't mind people who are kind of weird. Also I just don't find it all that far removed from wearing a basketball jersey out in public or some of the stuff that passes for fashion in the world.

Jason

It would be more like wearing the jersey, the shorts and the shoes to work and then being asked to be addressed as "Michael Jordan".

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ Good analogy!

By this logic, then I require to be addressed as John Riggins from now on (#44 Washington Redskins).

 

[Nerys Myk]

^^^ Good analogy!

By this logic, then I require to be addressed as John Riggins from now on (#44 Washington Redskins).

Excellent post John Riggins.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Thank you very much!

I gotta go suck on my oxygen tank now...

 

[Skipper]

It would be more like wearing the jersey, the shorts and the shoes to work and then being asked to be addressed as "Michael Jordan".

Don't forget the basketball ball!

 

[Jayson1]

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Nope I have never dressed in star trek clothes. I did go through a phase were I was into cross dressing and then their was my imaginary friend when my mental illness was bad. Their was the Christian girl who showed me her boobies on a web cam but didn't want to meet me because I wasn't into religion. Time I almost convinced myself into gay sex even though I'm not gay but was just so lonely and desperate at the time I thought I could get into it.

Also got a hot cousin I'm kind of into and their is the panic attacks were I have literally asked cops to put handcuffs on me, not to mention more than a few stays in inpatient at the local mental hospital. As a kid I wanted to keep touching this other kids wart. I cried when I told my mom I was into girls. Didn't masturbate until high school. Never drank any alcohol,did any drugs or even smoked even once in my life.

I wear sweatpants all the time, never wear socks. Once drove up a mountain for no reason. Stranger once said "see you later" and to this date I have this thought in my mind that it might have been Satan telling me I will go to hell which is curious since I don't believe in hell. Once bite into a electric fence because I felt like it would increase my intelligence. Read "A Brief History in Time" hoping that someone might have figured out time travel because I really wanted to go back in time back then for some reason.

Never had sex. Closest thing to a sexual experience was when I was a kid me and this neighbor girl went behind my house and showed each other are private parts and let each other kiss them.

Once almost drove into a pond then later with the imaginary friend tried to will myself into driving into a lake to kill myself. Play constant pratical jokes on my family. As a kid my mom was married to a abusive man who was my stepfather and years after they got a divorce he came by to see my sisters and I wouldn't let him so I just took them in my room and used my body to block the door so he couldn't get in.

Got confused on how to use a bumper car. Jumped into a swimming pool because I had a ant on me and screamed. Asked a girl out from work through email. Have a few strange thoughts form time to time that I mention here on the trekbbs.

Jason

 

[Jayson1]

It would be more like wearing the jersey, the shorts and the shoes to work and then being asked to be addressed as "Michael Jordan".

But if you did this wouldn't you want to be accepted by people? As for the Commander lady she didn't literally think she was in starfleet. She was sane enough to hold down a job and I think she was part of some club were they wore uniforms.

Jason

 

[137th Gebirg]

Also got a hot cousin I'm kind of into...

Okay - you just lost ALL your arguments with THAT statement.

Never had sex...

Didn't see that one coming either.

Wait...did I just accidentally do a pun?

 

[Nerys Myk]

But if you did this wouldn't you want to be accepted by people? As for the Commander lady she didn't literally think she was in starfleet. She was sane enough to hold down a job and I think she was part of some club were they wore uniforms.

Jason

IIRC, she seemed to think she was. That's why she wore the uniform.

 

[137th Gebirg]

IIRC, she seemed to think she was. That's why she wore the uniform.

Exactly.