Picard, the La Sirena

[Donnewtype]

Good day everyone. Taking a break from the Enterprise deck plans, I've been working on the La Sirena from Picard. Powered through the series with my wife on Crave and thoroughly loved it with both of us agreeing that Raffi was one of the best characters. Anyway here is what I have modeled so far based on screen grabs from the web. and Trekbbs.

The geometry is much more complex with the groves and angled segments that make up the engine pods and main hull. Does anyone have images of what the exterior doors might look like? I've modeled two doors, one above the other as the screen grabs show a recessed area that runs the full height of the hull. But right now they're outlines.

The engines and rear detail are going to be another challenge. Is it just me or does the ship have too many engines? The show calls it a fast freighter but I cant help but think of Poe when he pilots a Tie fighter for the first time; "Whoa that's fast!" Thank goodness for inertial dampener fields.

 

[publiusr]

I can see the nose detaching as a mini-shuttle

 

[Donnewtype]

Good day everyone, I hope May, June and July have been easy on everyone dealing with the pandemic; I had some good news last week as I was recalled back to work so I'll count my blessings and enjoy the commute this time.

Anyway I've worked on the Sirena some more, adding in landing gear, the smaller side engine pods and having a go at the paint scheme. Here's what I've accomplished with the ship over the last month or so.


Added the graphics to the warp blades?

Landing gear retracted

Landing gear extended

Rear grill detail added as well.

My first go at rendering the ship. I have no idea how lighting works, so I just went default. In it you can see how I placed the landing gear into pods on the inside of the warp blades, warp nacelles.

Has anyone found details of what the rear of the ship looks like? Besides lots of engines?
More to come, Donnewtype.

 

[Mage]

I love La Sirena, really looking forward to seeing the end results!

 

[Donnewtype]

Good day everyone. After a computer power failure, i'm back up and running.
Have started to add the detail to the Warp Blades (As I'm calling them) and main hull.

Rear view showing power grills? The next challenge is the engine emitters that seem to be every were.

Has anyone have screen captures that show the layout in clearer detail? Here is another view showing the rear grill.

I've been trying to find clearer pictures of the rear of the ship but haven't had any luck so far. I'm guessing that there are cargo doors at the rear but i'm not sure.
I'll try to post more frequently as I work up more detail.
All for now, Donnewtype

 

[Albertese]

Every time I see this ship I can not help but think it would fit better in Star Wars: The Clone Wars than in Star Trek.

--Alex

 

[Donnewtype]

Good day everyone.
So like most dummies, I got the bug to put an interior into this fast freighter; but now find myself struggling to fit everything. I'm happy with the proportions: windows, doors, controls and the open space that is behind the Captain's chair, but I need some help trying to figure out where the cabins, cargo and other stuff goes because I get the feeling the ship is bigger on the inside than outside.

So here is a shot of the front looking in:

Helm and Captain's chair with the opening in the main deck directly behind the center chair.

Now here is the main helm with what I think is a secondary room under it. On the filming set you see the door that would lead to it.

Looks like a Space 1999 Cockpit door.

Now this section shows what i think is going on with the lower deck:

Its open on the sides except where the canteen and Med bay would go.


But I also have to ask did Rios add the Lab/Medical Bay or did it come with the ship? Are the open spaces in the wings cargo bays? If his crew were Emergency Holograms how did he fit new quarters into the ship to accommodate Picard and everyone? If Picard takes the Holosuite as his private quarters, does that mean everyone is doubling up until he can kludge together single births? So perhaps the wings were open cargo bays with force fields to keep an atmosphere in but as Rios modified and reconfigured his ship he add quarters that eliminated cargo space. This frame grab from the show shows the opening in the wing with equipment behind the opening:

Are they Tractor Beam projectors? Upgraded Shield Generators? The ship's been modified for sure.
Don.

 

[DEWLine]

Is Rios even the original owner?

 

[AlexMC]

This looks really cool!
I think some people have speculated that the indentations in the wings might be the deflectors?
And I don't think the openings at the side are doors, so much as they're windows with storm shutters. On the upper deck, there's a railing in front of them that doesn't look like it would open. (I can't upload the screencap, but you can see it in ep 3, around 39'20'') And on the lower deck, there doesn't seem to be a way to get to the window until they crash on Coppelius and put down something to bridge the gap. (Before, the net with Rios's footballs is trung across the window).

 

[Donnewtype]

So I've made progress on the rear of the ship and the engines along with the decks blocked out to see where everything goes.
Main Deck:

Lower Deck:

And a rear cargo bay.

Everything fits so far so I'll continue to add detail.

 

[AlexMC]

It continues to look awesome!
The cargo bay on the lower level definitely fits with the behind the scenes stuff I have watched and read. I'm assuming the blue section on the top level is the engine room? And I'm intrigued to see how you made the cabins fit, that's one of the things that frustrates me the most (since there's clearly some "bigger on the inside" trickery happening there...)

One thing I noticed, looking at the set plans: the upper deck isn't symmetrical in the back. On the starboard side, there are two free-standing struts, not one, so the part where the deck gets wider towards the end is larger on the starboard side than on the port side. I hope that makes sense, architectural terms aren't my forte.

 

[Donnewtype]

Good day and good luck voting.

Continuing to work more detail into the interior; struts, lights, hand rails and stairs and after some changes to the hull profile, have some cross sections to share. If I've guessed correctly with the size, proportions and scale, the ship is 165 ft. long; from the nose to the rear of the main hull where the cargo bay doors are.
Shown here with the left side:

and here with the right side:

I spaced the main interior frames at 99.65 inches center to center; now is that what they would be in real life, I don't know. But after playing around with field of view and camera position, I get really close to the view shown in two screen captures from the show.

First viewpoint, looking back at Sick Bay after the ship crashed; in model.

and on screen:

I'm close.
And now this shot, in model:

and on screen:

I'm happy indeed!

So now with the added detail, here is the main deck:

And the lower deck:

Now the show implies that Rios modified his ship by adding the holodeck and extra cabins. I pictured them as preassembled modules installed into a modified ship's structure. So then I came up with what I thought a "stock" K17 could look like:

Crew cabins at the rear of the ship with the main deck opening up on both sides. The lower deck would be the same.

In a stock ship, the sick bay is an isolated hazardous cargo area with its own environment and atmosphere systems. The forward cabin can be configured for storage, crew or paying passengers depending on the needs of the captain, owner or client. Ahead of that would be the equipment bay for the ship's phasers and sensors.

Here is what I wrote up:

The K17 is an example of a “General Services” class ship; one of innumerable small to small-medium size ships used to fill the limitless demands of commercial trade and private commerce throughout the Federation. The primary advantage of the K17 and its sister classes is their speed and the ease with which they can be modified and reconfigured to meet the demands of the individual consignment courier as well as the independent contractor/owner.

The standard layout has four crew cabins at the rear of the ship with a larger fifth cabin located forward under the bridge. This cabin can be configured for multiple uses, including additional crew accommodations, secure storage or paying passengers.

Unique to the K17 class is an integrated Laboratory/Research hold built into the lower deck. Isolated from the rest of the ship with independent environmental and atmospheric systems, the K17 can carry biological, radiological and environmental cargos that are classified under Federation Commerce Regulations as hazardous materials.

The advantage this gives the K17 over other ships in its class is that, with the installation of an AI Expert Holo-matrix, the hold can be configured into a dedicated medical sick bay or research laboratory. This allows the K17 to serve the larger scientific and exploration market as well.

The data and computer architecture of the K17 has the capacity to integrate up to four Expert AI matrices, operating cooperatively with each other as required. As is standard with Expert Holo-matrices, they can be given separate personalities and identities but it’s not uncommon to find the same identity used for all systems, with minor variations made to the individual personality blocks.

All cargo is handled by a multifocal variable aperture transporter system that allows for cargo and personal transport. The open main deck provides for a larger cargo volume compared to similar ships in her class while a separate rear access cargo bay allows for the transport of larger material pallets and containers that do not fit the transporter system or that are deemed “non-transporter compatible” by the captain or client.

The K17 is powered by a six manifold M/AM reactor core feeding two narrow profile warp nacelles. The five impulse/sub light thruster systems; three primary thrusters for in system travel and two secondary thrusters for maneuvering and position adjustment are considered overpowered by standard design criteria, but by using this configuration, the K17 maintains a consistent flight profile under differing planetary gravity conditions. A pair of Flight Attitude Control systems in the outrigger pods gives the K17 maneuverability not normally associated with this class of commercial vessel.

Defensive systems comprise two phaser emitters mounted in the nose and duel shield projectors in the nacelle wings.

All for now. Don

 

[DEWLine]

I like the setup as you describe it here! Thanks much!

 

[Mage]

Absolutely loving this!! I have a soft spot for ships like the Falcon, Serenity and La Sirena. Those kinda dingy, but homely things.

 

[DEWLine]

Noticing that the new novel Rogue Elements includes a cargo lift as well...?

 

[AlexMC]

I loved the idea of the cargo lift! I've often thought there needs to be some kind of system like that in place.

Though to be fair, Rogue Elements plays certain aspects a bit fast an loose when it comes to Sirena. Not anyhing horrific, just a bunch of details that don't lign up with the show. I really enjoy a lot if Miller's interpretations, but I wouldn't necessarily take the book as gospel when it comes to the ship

 

[publiusr]

I wonder if those outriggers can be interchanged. Somehow, I can see Faye’s ship from Bebop as coming from the same design firm