Does anyone have any pics & vids showing TOS Star Fleet uniforms during the Phase II preproduction phase?
Phase II TOS Star Fleet Uniforms Pics & Vids
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Looking for Phase II pics and vids would have been a better thread title after clicking on expecting to see a link to them. Oh well.
AFAIK the Phase II uniforms were in fact going to be the exact same ones from TOS, as part of an effort to make the show as cheaply as possible.
It was only when the project was transformed into TMP that new uniforms were budgeted--and thus we got the "space pajamas."
The only other thing I recall is that Ilia (who was going to be a principal cast member on the new series) was supposed to wear a headdress, and there were several designs for this used in costume tests. (Photos are shown in the reference book by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, Star Trek Phase II: The Lost Series.)
It was only when the project was transformed into TMP that new uniforms were budgeted--and thus we got the "space pajamas."
The only other thing I recall is that Ilia (who was going to be a principal cast member on the new series) was supposed to wear a headdress, and there were several designs for this used in costume tests. (Photos are shown in the reference book by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, Star Trek Phase II: The Lost Series.)
For Phase II, there were the "regular" uniforms that are so nearly identical to TOS costumes that you probably wouldn't notice they were the Phase II versions. You'd really have to know what to look for. So you can probably just call them TOS uniforms. (The collar was a bit higher and the pants cuffs were bucaneer-style.)
There were short sleeve shirts that look a lot like McCoy's blue lab smock. These casual uniforms came in all three colors.
There's a set of bib overalls--like right out of "Hee Haw." They come in all three colors, too.
There is a smock which is worn over a black T-shirt; this also comes in all three colors and they have a front and back, but no real sides to them. (It's a little hard to explain, but they are somewhat like a sandwich board.) They just have a small black band on each side down towards the waist that disappears against the black t-shirt; they sort of holds the front and back together a bit.
There's a woman's short sleeve uniform. It's pretty much identical to the regular TOS women's uniform, except that it's, well, short-sleeved. And by short, I mean really short (although it's not quite a tank top). They are split cap sleeves.
There were also some jumpsuits.
Lastly, there was a new woman's dress unform that included a shrug.
It was only when the project was transformed into TMP that new uniforms were budgeted--and thus we got the "space pajamas."
Apparently, Robert Wise wasn't really hip to using the brightly colored uniforms from TOS or the ones created for the aborted PHASE:II series. And wanted something more muted in color.
It was only when the project was transformed into TMP that new uniforms were budgeted--and thus we got the "space pajamas."
Apparently, Robert Wise wasn't really hip to using the brightly colored uniforms from TOS or the ones created for the aborted PHASE:II series. And wanted something more muted in color.
Yes: a small patch of yellow, blue, or red on a little 17-inch screen is one thing; having those same colors become giant swathes two stories tall on a movie screen would be little overwhelming. Smaller than life verses larger than life requires different artistic sensibilities.
Those bold colors worked fine in ST'09.It was only when the project was transformed into TMP that new uniforms were budgeted--and thus we got the "space pajamas."
Apparently, Robert Wise wasn't really hip to using the brightly colored uniforms from TOS or the ones created for the aborted PHASE:II series. And wanted something more muted in color.
Yes: a small patch of yellow, blue, or red on a little 17-inch screen is one thing; having those same colors become giant swathes two stories tall on a movie screen would be little overwhelming. Smaller than life verses larger than life requires different artistic sensibilities.
Exactly. In ST '09 art book, one of the movie's producers states he doesn't understand why the original TOS movies strayed away from the colored shirts.
Fashions are cyclic. Fashions in clothing, color palettes, furnishings, movies, vehicles. Etc.
The 70s tended to pastel plains (form-fitting bodyshirts) or very loud paisley prints, wide lapels and flared cuffs. Solid bold colors weren't "in".
Note that all the TMP alien ambassadors, no matter what race, tended to have flared pants reflecting the disco era of the time they were designed. Ditto McCoy's civvies.
I'm only guessing, but it might be due to the heavy influence of 2001, A SPACE ODYSSEY' s art design, with its stark sterile colours and bright lighting (hardly any shadows). ALIEN and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK finally started the move away towards the new aesthetic of deeper shadows and richer colours from the 80's (recently Hollywood seems to favour more washed-out colours and greyish backgrounds (book of Eli, Transformers)-- ugh!)
Sez you. I was a teen in the 1970s and there was a huge supply of bold and bright clothes. I still remember some of the outfits.
Paisey was 1960s, and I can't recollect seeing it around my neck of the woods. I did, however, wear the aforementioned gawdawful uncomfortable bodysuits. Thank God that trend only lasted for a year or so.
I have photos of myself at age 4-5 wearing a one piece bodysuit, and that was from the late 60's. My eyes, my eyes!!
Indeed! Anyone who was around then and old enough to remember can tell you that there were lots of bold solid colors in addition to the patterned polyester suits. Check out this ad from a catalog circa 1975. Canary yellow pants!
I was also a teen in the 70s. Australian fashions ran about 18 months behind America, I think. I kept my 1971 birthday-gift blue paisley shirt all through the disco era. My 1974 bodyshirt was pale mauve, worn with high-waisted, giant flared-cuff trousers, that were bought with my own money. They were pale green, but I also had a pair in purple. My platform shoes were oxblood.
My suit, bought in 1976, was a powder-blue safari jacket and matching pants.
My memory may be faulty, but I'm pretty sure I wore bodysuits in 8th-10th grade, which is, uh, 1971-the first half of 1974. It was more around 1972-73, if memory serves. Some were pale (powder blue), but I had one fire-engine red one. *grin*
I don't recollect ever seeing any paisley from middle school (1970-1973) on but that doesn't necessarily mean that no one wore it. It just might not have caught my eye.
Or as you say, Australia was a bit behind in fashion and you guys were wearing them while we had moved on to some other absurdity.
Interesting early picture of Llia you found Mars. I would say she is the most attractive Bald woman in Trek
I am glad they did away with the tiara on her head.
I am glad they did away with the tiara on her head.
I think she was the only bald woman in Trek.Interesting early picture of Llia you found Mars. I would say she is the most attractive Bald woman in Trek
Anyhow, I always liked bald women (especially if they got a good shaped head), so it's a bit redundant.
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