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For anybody wondering, I've watched the first 5 episodes of series 5. I will never be able to look at angels again without getting a bit freaked out!
Eh, series 5 is the only decent one Moffat produced, series 6, 7 and 8 are kinda crap except for a few episodes. Rory is awesome though.

The RTD era is generally stronger, it was ridiculous and crazy at points but Davies always made it spectacular, you're also missing out on series 4 which is the strongest of both eras and features the best companion! You should really consider going back and starting with "Rose".
 
I'm a McCoy fan. I don't think much of the fangasm over Hinchcliffe - it's incredibly disrespectful to others who've worked on Who.
 
Old people are allergic to new stuff.

Who has been running just long enough for that cosmic certainty to kick in.

Smith and Amy are great.

Smith, Amy and Rory are Amazing.

Smith, Amy, Rory and River make my toes curl.

oh there are minisodes set during the era you are watching you might have to look on youtube for.

The red nose day special was fantastic. Amy almost made out with a doppleganger of herself from 5 minutes in the future.

8 minutes long. Set between seaosn 5 and 6. (Just watched it, self contained no spoilers.)

Book mark it for later...

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E-wzgx1Vzc[/yt]
 
You've made your decision JG, hold firm.

Ride it out, and then go back and watch the good stuff.

I intend to. Though I'm guessing that series 5-7 isn't well-liked because so far almost everyone has recommended I watch series 4 first.

Most of the people hating on Series 5-7 (meaning all of Matt Smith's era) were those hooked on Tennant, or who got tired of the metaplot you'll start to see coming up in Series 6. The only reason they keep bringing up Series 4 is because River Song, who you met in the 'angels' episode, made her very first appearance (from the Doctor's POV, when he was Tennant) in an episode there.* Trust me, it's not necessary. If you're enjoying the show so far, that's all that matters.

* In fact, you might enjoy it even better when you get through all of Smith and then eventually revisit that Tennant episode. Why? Spoilers...
 
The main problem with season six, is that the story arc seemed to overwhelm the show quite a bit more than usual and some of the character focus seemed to be lost. Season Seven was mainly built I think to celebrate the anniversary-the season opener, for instance, features many of the classic Dalek designs making cameos, and the season sees the return of many classic bad guys and references to the past, culminating in "Day of the Doctor".

That's one thing about the new show, the episodes in the seasons are generally connected and kind of build to a finale that explains everything, Usually this is some sort of mysterious phrase (Starting with bad wolf in season 1) You've probably already noticed the word Pandorica and Silence Will Fall in season five, for instance (The latter of which pretty much takes up the entire Smith era and isn't quite resolved in this season).

The original series also had a few connected story arcs. There are two season long storylines linked by some stories (Although the stories themselves are somewhat self-contained but contribute something to the arc). There's season 16 The Key To Time saga, and then season 23 The Trial of A Time Lord.


Other linked stories include the E-space trilogy (in which the Doctor becomes trapped in another dimension) The return of the Master (Which features the return of a popular villain and the end of the Tom Baker era), The Black Guardian trilogy (During Peter Davison's, a sequel of sorts to Key To Time) and a few others that are mainly labeled by fans, such as the final season which features three serials that are linked to companion Ace's past all in a row (Although this wasn't quite planned as such).
 
In the 11th Hour Matt is 27.

If you went to the hospital and a 27 year old Doctor offered to pull a baby out of you (that needed to be pulled out), how would you react?

27 is just too unformed.

OH!

Little Amy from the 11th hour, is big Amy's cousin in real life.

:)

Have you heard about Doctor Who Confidential?

Every new episode (for the first 7 years) got an hour long behind the scenes/making of featurette played straight after the new episode.

Not essential, but sometimes informative.
 
Regarding the spoilers concerning River Song, I already know that she is Amy and Rory's daughter from the future which means that Amy tried to have sex with her future son-in-law.

Guy, to answer your first question I'd probably request chloroform but I don't think that's legal so I would demand a c-section. I'd rather be in the hands of a 27 year old doctor than a student doctor.

Second, that makes sense because both little Amy and Big Amy look so much alike.

Third, no I haven't heard of it.
 
I haven't seen a lot of Moffat. I've had to make due with reading the Wikipedia entries on them (yeah, I know it's sad). But what I love about him is he's really the first person on Who to really use the confusion that time travel would cause. The old series, when the TARDIS was working right, was legendary for going "QUICK! We've got to get to the location before [the bad guy] does!"

You're in a time machine. You could stop off for ice cream, go watch the 1932 World Series, read "War & Peace" and still get there before the bad guy does.
 
I haven't seen a lot of Moffat. I've had to make due with reading the Wikipedia entries on them (yeah, I know it's sad). But what I love about him is he's really the first person on Who to really use the confusion that time travel would cause. The old series, when the TARDIS was working right, was legendary for going "QUICK! We've got to get to the location before [the bad guy] does!"

You're in a time machine. You could stop off for ice cream, go watch the 1932 World Series, read "War & Peace" and still get there before the bad guy does.

RTD and Moffat gave us the "fixed points in time" concept so you couldn't go back do things like that. It was the old series that gave us six Mona Lisas. And really the old series wasn't known for getting to the location before the bad guy, it was needed for Time-Flight but not for other stories.
 
Funny thing about Alex Kingston, who plays River, is that she looks beliveably like she could be the daughter of Arthur Darvill and Karen Gillian IMO, although of course in her late 40s/early 50s. Beyond the red hair, her features do kind of look a lot like them when you look at all three. Perhaps Moffat had that in mind when they were cast?

Which kind of makes the fact that that's actually her third form sort of silly, as it's revealed in season 6 that she can regenerate because of the TARDIS.
 
Funny thing about Alex Kingston, who plays River, is that she looks beliveably like she could be the daughter of Arthur Darvill and Karen Gillian IMO, although of course in her late 40s/early 50s. Beyond the red hair, her features do kind of look a lot like them when you look at all three. Perhaps Moffat had that in mind when they were cast?

Which kind of makes the fact that that's actually her third form sort of silly, as it's revealed in season 6 that she can regenerate because of the TARDIS.

It does, but perhaps we can rationalise it in-universe; there was a deleted line from 'The End of the World' when Jabe scans the Doctor and detects nine different DNA strands. Although not canon (and it would have caused an insurmountable problem with ret-conning the War Doctor into the line-up), it makes sense that some DNA would carry over from one incarnation to the next. It could explain why Jenny, the Doctor's "daughter", looks like his fifth incarnation, and why Melody/River's third incarnation still looks like her parents.
 
These things skip a generation.

I'm sure Jenny's kids look a lot like Tennant.

Um...

What if a Timelord penis is like the guns from Judge Dredd that have variable ammunition all loaded and each ready to use immediately upon the users discretion?
 
It could explain why Jenny, the Doctor's "daughter", looks like his fifth incarnation, and why Melody/River's third incarnation still looks like her parents.
Technically, Jenny is not the Doctor'S daughter, she is a clone as she was created with his sole DNA, I believe. Might be a Time Lord fluke, that she came out looking not identical but as some alternate version of him, basically being the potentially female version of the 5th Doctor and the first proof that Time Lord's can change their sex. :lol:
 
Oh no, they said that the DNA is jiggled to make sure that everyone looks different.

Maybe Jenny is the body he would have adopted if not for the metacrisis that tricked him into not changing faces when he regenerated.

PS

I'm still disgusted that he ran out of regenerations in my life time.
 
Well, the IotD1 thing is the best result of recovery from a poor b&w print. Only alternatives wete b&w or recolour from scratch... which is pricey, and maybe less accurate to the original.

They did a full recolorization from scratch for "The Mind of Evil, Part 1" and it looks fantastic. Or, at least, it does a great job of blending in with the chroma-dot recolorization job done on Parts 2-6. My point is that they've done other colorization jobs that look much better than "Invasion of the Dinosaurs, Part 1." (IIRC, the problem was that it was made from a black & white print where the red & green chroma-dot information was recoverable but the blue chroma-dots had been filtered out prior to making the film print. Which is what they were supposed to do for all of them anyway.)

Eh, series 5 is the only decent one Moffat produced, series 6, 7 and 8 are kinda crap except for a few episodes. Rory is awesome though.

The RTD era is generally stronger, it was ridiculous and crazy at points but Davies always made it spectacular, you're also missing out on series 4 which is the strongest of both eras and features the best companion! You should really consider going back and starting with "Rose".

As I was saying, some of it depends on your tastes. One of the things I've realized is that, prior to doing Doctor Who, RTD was a soap opera writer and Moffat was a sitcom writer. So which era you'll prefer will depend upon whether you place a greater value on emotion or humor.

For my money, Season 5 was the best of the entire new series. Season 6 is a great continuation of Season 5 but I will admit that the River arc does perhaps dominate the show a bit too much. Season 7 is a mixed bag of mostly stand-alones. I'm not entirely crazy about Smith/Clara. I much prefer Capaldi/Clara in Season 8.

I'm guessing that series 5-7 isn't well-liked because so far almost everyone has recommended I watch series 4 first.

As has been noted, most of the viewers slagging off on the Matt Smith years are incorrigible Tennant fans that can't accept any Doctor except for the skinny geek in the pinstriped suit. It's been 5 years and the war still rages. (But that's what the internet is for. :D )

As for Season 4, that would be a really weird place to start since it's full of references to & cameos from the previous 3 seasons. It's the beginning of the River Song story (from the Doctor's perspective) but it's the end of a lot of other stuff.

And while Donna is my favorite companion from the RTD era, she still pales in comparison to Rory, Amy, & Clara. Plus, compared to the other RTD companions, Donna doesn't get a lot of solo-companion time. Of her 13 episodes, she only really gets 4 of her own. In the other 9, she's either sharing the episode with another companion or is barely in the episode at all.

Smith and Amy are great.

Smith, Amy and Rory are Amazing.

Smith, Amy, Rory and River make my toes curl.

Agreed. Best TARDIS team since Troughton, Jamie, & Zoe back in the 1960s.

The red nose day special was fantastic. Amy almost made out with a doppelganger of herself from 5 minutes in the future.

8 minutes long. Set between season 5 and 6. (Just watched it, self contained no spoilers.)

No spoilers for the most part.
The very presence of Rory kinda spoils "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" since Rory is now alive again after having been killed & erased from existence in "Cold Blood."
 
It may take a while for Rory to grow on me. I was a little disappointed when Amy invited him along for the ride. He's kind of dull in comparison to Amy and the Doctor.
 
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