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My review of "Kobayashi Maru" [SPOILERS!]

Voyager's EMH broke the pattern, and then Enterprise's Phlox went right off the rails. (Funny story about Phlox: when the character's name first hit the internet, I assumed it was a joke or disinformation. The doctor named after a PLANT? What was this, a remake of Quark, where the doctor was named Ficus?)

Ironic that you should mention Quark, because it's really no weirder to name a Denobulan after a plant than to name a Ferengi after a subatomic particle.
 
Page 197, where Archer misremembers the name of the Klingon Afterlife as "Sto-Vo-Top" made me laugh out loud.

I wonder if it's especially popular around Thanksgiving and Christmas!

"Sto-vo-top? I'm dying!" :) {ProfJonathan}
 
My only real complaint was the extreme slowness of several characters when it came to figuring out what was going on. Captain Hernandez was involved with the battle at Dreylax, and she got the briefing about Romulan remote control, yet it takes her absolutely forever to even conceive that the same might be happening with the Vulcan ships at Alpha Centauri.

And the Archer displaying the same stupidity at the KM. Trip just told you what would happen, dumbass, why are you so shocked when it does?

But yeah, other than that it was a pretty good read. I do wish the characters' actions had affected the outcome of events a bit more than they did......most of them just seemed to be along for the ride while everything happens around them. Reed and T'Pol's little sojourn did little aside from getting Trip out of a sticky spot. Actually it seemed like the authors realized this problem at times and commented on it in-book, but hanging a lantern is not the same as solving the difficulty in the first place.
 
Voyager's EMH broke the pattern, and then Enterprise's Phlox went right off the rails. (Funny story about Phlox: when the character's name first hit the internet, I assumed it was a joke or disinformation. The doctor named after a PLANT? What was this, a remake of Quark, where the doctor was named Ficus?)

Ironic that you should mention Quark, because it's really no weirder to name a Denobulan after a plant than to name a Ferengi after a subatomic particle.

The name "Quark" made me laugh when I first heard it. Quark is a German kind of cheesy yoghurt which comes plain or with many fruit flavours. I have never seen it in England and it is one of the few German foods I miss.

Yes, sometimes I wonder how names are actually chosen :).
 
I think that this book is fantastic. I felt like the the uncertainty that the captains have comes from the fact that humans are still new too space, and so much of what they think is happening is by conjecture and theory, the theories are right in the end, but Archer wants to make sure... He stays longer than I would have at the end, but he also cannot be completely sure that it is not the Klingons, so he tests by staying just long enough to find out that it is the Romulans their tele-capture system.

I thought that the story really set up the Romulan war well and also did the no-win-situation well. I mean, if Archer stays there, Enterprise is in the hands of the Romulans. Just goes to show you cannot win them all.

I am loving Enterprise and cannot enjoy Andy and Michael's books more! Why to go guys!
 
My only question is whether this is the first Star Trek book to use the word "fuck" or not? (If any one replies with a history of cursing in Star Trek books I will immediately fall in love with them.)
 
Woah, someone says fuck in the book? I have no problems with the word, I use it myself and I've read plenty of books with it in them, I just never thought I'd see it in a Trek book.
 
My only real complaint was the extreme slowness of several characters when it came to figuring out what was going on. Captain Hernandez was involved with the battle at Dreylax, and she got the briefing about Romulan remote control, yet it takes her absolutely forever to even conceive that the same might be happening with the Vulcan ships at Alpha Centauri.

And the Archer displaying the same stupidity at the KM. Trip just told you what would happen, dumbass, why are you so shocked when it does?

But yeah, other than that it was a pretty good read. I do wish the characters' actions had affected the outcome of events a bit more than they did......most of them just seemed to be along for the ride while everything happens around them. Reed and T'Pol's little sojourn did little aside from getting Trip out of a sticky spot. Actually it seemed like the authors realized this problem at times and commented on it in-book, but hanging a lantern is not the same as solving the difficulty in the first place.

This pretty well sums up my feelings about the book. Good read for the most part, but man, I couldn't figure out why Hernandez was taking so long to figure that out.
 
Woah, someone says fuck in the book? I have no problems with the word, I use it myself and I've read plenty of books with it in them, I just never thought I'd see it in a Trek book.
No one says it out loud in the book, but Archer basically says the Starfleet version of WTF (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot), and then translates it back into its slightly more crude What the Fuck.

Yeah, I'm not really offended by it, I was just wondering if it had been used in any other Star Trek books.
 
Wow, I was just skimming the book and I did actually find it. I've know I've never seen it in any of the Trek books I've read. But then again most of those have been released since '03, so it could have been in an older book.
 
Off-hand, the only time I can remember is that Shelby almost said it, but was cut off, in one of the flashbacks in "Stone and Anvil."
 
Eeesh. Talk about Star Trek entering "modern vernacular". Now we have an authentication of the dang F-word?!:rolleyes:

Funny Historical Note: The F-word is actually an acronym, standing for Fornicating Under Command of the King.

It comes from the time of William Wallace (a.k.a. Braveheart), where awesome-looking ladies-man knights would, under command of the king, sneak over to the other side and start makin' it with the babes over there. Reasons are obvious--creates scandals, gets info from the gals who knew stuff, and so on.



I kid you not.




By the way, when I heard this info, about the first thought in my mind was something along the lines of, "WHAT THE--"

Ah, you get the idea....
 
I kid you not.

Yes, you do; or at least, somebody else has managed the phenomenal feat of pulling the wool over your otherwise perceptive eyes. Fuck has cognates in Germanic languages, which points to a probable common ancestor at some point in Proto-Germanic. What you are describing is just one of many urban legends and false etymologies, which also includes things like Fornication Under Command/Control/Consent/Cardinal/Christian King, or Felonious/Forced/Found Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Yes, you do; or at least, somebody else has managed the phenomenal feat of pulling the wool over your otherwise perceptive eyes.

Quite...a phenomenal feat....

And I seem to recall Anglo-Saxons being considered "proto-Germanic" at one point--around the time they conquered Britain from the Western Roman Empire.

Note the word "probable" in Mr. Roman's post. Who knows? Maybe it's an acronym after all, and the Germans made it authentic.
 
Just for kicks, I went to Snopes.com, the place to go if you want to refute an urban myth:

What the Fuck?

Hmm. Interesting....

Ah well. Ya never know.

Quite frankly, it was the first and only explanation I'd ever heard for the genesis of one of our most dirty words. It's nice to know... The Rest Of The Story.

Hmm. TROTS. Interesting....
 
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