Most Popular Trek Films According to TrekBBS Denizens

[Farscape One]

Except Genesis didn't work. The planet blew itself apart in the very next movie.

As far as NEMESIS is concerned, I hate that movie, too. Precisely why it's ranked 11th place on my list. Agreed it isn't good.

And as far as critics are concerned... they are more often wrong than they are right regarding movies. The fact the general audiences liked it somewhat surprises me, but in a way it doesn't, because the general audience for the most part equates scifi movies with 'pew pew'. ID has a lot of that, but otherwise is a hollow movie.

 

[Trelane_Squire_of_Gothos]

It's really not. The themes, plot, characterisation and motivations are different. It (foolishly) rips off one scene, but that does not amount to being a knockoff.

It was the "Great Value" Kirk and Spock vs. Khan story.

Nemesis had an utterly nonsensical plot at its core and Picard hooning around in a dune buggy blasting random aliens.

Not the most nonsensical plot among Star Trek (by a long shot). First Contact, Generations, and Final Frontier all had more "nonsensical" plots.

ID is a long way from a terrible film. It was well reviewed by critics and general audience alike and did at least moderately well at the box office. It mostly just riled up the fandom by daring to tread on the sacred turf of WoK.

Speaking of which, it's hilarious that people still get so upset about the "magic blood" while lauding a film built around a magic torpedo which terraforms and creates vast and diverse life across a planet in mere seconds.

-Cumberbatch is a great actor, but he was very poorly cast as Khan.
-Peter Weller's character and storyline were absurd and over the top.
-The recycled scene you referenced was cheap and lacked the impact of the original.
-There was some unconvincing shoehorning of character relationships.

 

[1001001]

STID was a bad film.

Stupid plot, half hour too long, and the Khan reboot was double-stupid.

ST09 was also stupid, but in a joyously fun way.

Beyond was great fun. Everything between Bones and Spock was spot on and emotionally resonant. Jaylah was awesome and I’d love to see how she does in a Starfleet uniform.

Beyond was the best Kelvin movie, and overall in the top tier of Star Trek movies.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

13 - ST09
12 - ID
11 - TMP
10 - FC
9 - GEN
8 - BEY
7 - TWOK
6 - TUC
5 - TSFS
4 - TFF
3 - TVH
2 - INS
1 - NEM

A few months ago, I would have ranked Into Darkness as my top, with The Motion Picture second, but a recent rewatch of the Bad Robot movies made me realize how well 09 has aged and bumped all my rankings down one. First Contact creeped upwards since my last rankings as another rewatch proved to be pretty fun.

 

[Farscape One]

STID was a bad film.

Stupid plot, half hour too long, and the Khan reboot was double-stupid.

ST09 was also stupid, but in a joyously fun way.

Beyond was great fun. Everything between Bones and Spock was spot on and emotionally resonant. Jaylah was awesome and I’d love to see how she does in a Starfleet uniform.

Beyond was the best Kelvin movie, and overall in the top tier of Star Trek movies.

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I agree with everything here, except 09 being joyously fun.

 

[StarMan]

The good:
13 points - TWOK
12 points - FC
11 points - '09
10 points - TVH

The never quite sure:
9 points -TMP

The okay:
8 points - GEN
7 points - TSFS

Meh:
6 points - ID
5 points - TFF
4 points - TUC (this would have ranked higher in the past but does less for me as time goes by)

Nope:
3 points - BEY (just didn't do it for me - Krall fell flat and Elba was underutilised)
2 points - NEM
1 point - INS (my boobs are just fine, Mr Data)

 

[Eddie Roth]

13 points - TVH
12 points - TWOK
11 points - TMP
10 points - TUC
9 points - GEN
8 points - NEM
7 points - TSFS
6 points - '09
5 points - FC
4 points - TFF
3 points - ID
2 points - INS
1 point - BEY

I never liked Beyond, and the two Abrams ones have only slipped further down the list - both used to be ranked much higher. My top four also shift around because the even-odd rule does somewhat apply to the TOS movies only. TMP however stands out as truly unique, and without a doubt, the most cinematic of all 13.

 

[Vger23]

Definitely some interesting discussion so far.

One of my take-aways is that people have "dislike" for some percentage of the Trek movies a lot more than I do. While the exercise forces you to rank/weigh your favorite to least-favorite, and thus forces me to have some "bottom picks..." the only Trek movie I really don't appreciate is INS, and even that I find has some redeeming qualities and I do re-watch it from time-to-time.

Even though I put ID, GEN and BEY fairly low, I still really like those movies and I re-watch them pretty regularly. I've seen a number of responses here though where people actively dislike 3-4 of the franchise films. Not that this is unusual, but I guess it just further cements my belief that I'm a big "fan" of Trek as a movie franchise, as I'm much more forgiving of the films than a lot of people seem to be.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Everything up to Nemsis in their release order all 10/10, just how i originally saw them all back in the day, anything after Nemesis we don't talk about openly.

 

[1001001]

Definitely some interesting discussion so far.

One of my take-aways is that people have "dislike" for some percentage of the Trek movies a lot more than I do. While the exercise forces you to rank/weigh your favorite to least-favorite, and thus forces me to have some "bottom picks..." the only Trek movie I really don't appreciate is INS, and even that I find has some redeeming qualities and I do re-watch it from time-to-time.

Even though I put ID, GEN and BEY fairly low, I still really like those movies and I re-watch them pretty regularly. I've seen a number of responses here though where people actively dislike 3-4 of the franchise films. Not that this is unusual, but I guess it just further cements my belief that I'm a big "fan" of Trek as a movie franchise, as I'm much more forgiving of the films than a lot of people seem to be.

I did basically enjoy all the films (to varying degrees) except STID and TMP.

So, 11 out of 13 is pretty good!

 

[Tosk]

I don't tend to rank definitively like this, and I'd probably make changes if you asked a month ago or a month from now, but...

13 points - TWOK
12 points - TUC
11 points - TVH
10 points - TSFS
09 points - TMP
08 points - TFF
07 points - BEY
06 points - '09
05 points - GEN
04 points - INS
03 points - FC
02 points - NEM
01 points - STID

 

[Vger23]

STID was a bad film.

Stupid plot, half hour too long, and the Khan reboot was double-stupid.



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I'd love it if someday there was a tell-all book written about the entire production process of Star Trek Into Darkness, especially the writing process. To me, it just feels like the writing process spiraled out of control and the writers didn't know how to reel it back in....like they had all these big ideas, restrictive requirements, and impossible expectations...and it just completely overwhelmed their ability to tell a cohesive and reasonable story.

It always feels to me like they strained way too hard to make THe bEsT StaR TRek MoVIe EVAR!!!1!1! and it ended up hurting their ability to stay on a clear narrative path that would have actually made sense.

In some cases, you see the same phenomenon with the DSC and PIC writers.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Except Genesis didn't work.

It worked well enough to bring Spock back permanently.

 

[fireproof78]

It worked well enough to bring Spock back permanently.

Including aging to the appropriate Nimoy look.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Here is my shocking list:

13 points- 2009
12 points- TWOK
11 points- BEY
10 points- TSFS
9 points- TVH
8 points- TUC
7 points- FC
6 points- ID
5 points- INS
4 points- NEM
3 points- TMP
2 points- TFF
1 point- GEN

Star Trek 2009 has its problems, it has a lot of problems, but I feel like it's the film I most enjoyed watching overall and the prologue in particular is fantastic.

On the other side of the scale is Generations, which is a miserable movie that doesn't come close to earning all of its death and destruction, and has to rely on stock footage from the previous film for its epic space battle! At least Nemesis could afford dune buggies, even if it probably should've spent the money elsewhere.

 

[Sakonna]

13 points - TUC
12 points - BEY
11 points - ID
10 points - 2009
9 points - FC
8 points - TVH
7 points - TSFS
6 points - GEN
5 points - TMP
4 points - TWOK
3 points - TFF
2 points - INS
1 point - NEM

My controversial opinion is that the Kelvin films are the best Trek movies, with the exception of TUC. Love these movies! Each one was more satisfying to me than the one before. God do I hope Paramount somehow finds a way to stop tripping over their dick with the movie end of this franchise and actually get a fourth one made.

I'm also generally blind to whatever everyone else is seeing in TWOK, that movie has never has clicked for me. I almost put TFF above it, and the only thing that ultimately got TFF lower was it's disgusting treatment of Uhura, my favorite TOS character.

Insurrection and Nemesis are the only two Trek films I truly hate, I struggle to make it through these.

Can't wait to see the totals!

 

[Paul755]

STID was a bad film.

Stupid plot, half hour too long, and the Khan reboot was double-stupid.

One of my issues with ID was that they took the stereotype of Kirk and dialed it up to 11. They played into that in Trek 09 but not nearly as much as they did in ID.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

He really doesn't come across great in that movie, but he's also punished for it over and over, until he learns his lesson and is reborn a better captain.

 

[fireproof78]

Kirk's arc from 09 to Beyond is what makes those films stronger for me. The idea that he lived in his father's shadow, rather than mentored by him, is such a beautiful psychological unpacking of a character that people just assume will be the hero always. 09 and ID prove that it needed cultivation and development and that a push in another direction could lead to more negative traits. I don't think he was dialed up to 11; I think he was a person struggling with finding purpose and finding thrill rides vs. taking responsibility.

 

[Vger23]

Kirk's arc from 09 to Beyond is what makes those films stronger for me. The idea that he lived in his father's shadow, rather than mentored by him, is such a beautiful psychological unpacking of a character that people just assume will be the hero always. 09 and ID prove that it needed cultivation and development and that a push in another direction could lead to more negative traits. I don't think he was dialed up to 11; I think he was a person struggling with finding purpose and finding thrill rides vs. taking responsibility.

I agree that Kirk's arc in the Kelvin movies is the core to what it's all about. It may be off-putting to fans who wanted their well-known and classic Kirk...but this is one of the few characters (maybe the only character) who grew up totally differently in the new timeline, and therefore had a much different journey through life. You have to expect that his personality and values are going to be very different than what we knew in the Prime timeline....

To me, this is one of the most interesting aspects of the Kelvin films.