Everyone that mentions the Others with NotLocke keep saying Cindy is with him. I was careful to look for her when we were shown he has more followers now, and I didn't. While some of the Others from the temple have joined him, I don't think Cindy is among them. If we see she is in a future episode, I will of course accept that she has, but until then, only a few of the Others have joined NotLocke, and Cindy is not among them.
Lost 6x06: "Sundown"
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i interpreted that as being raised by "an Other".
Someone who hasn't lived on the island wouldn't think about it like that, naturally.
The psychic, for example, wouldn't know what "an Other" was.
The Others are always taking children. If i am not mistaken, they only take certain adults, who are "good.".
but i thought the Others take any & all children that come to the Island. (except for Dharma).
Claire, because of the misinterpretation, would think Kate has done a horrible thing. But really, Kate did good, by taking Aaron away form the Others, and coming back to get Claire off the Island, and have Claire REALLY raise Aaron. 3 years is significant, but not enough , in my opinion, to violate the prophecy.
We'll see if my theory holds true..
Is that because you don't remember the exact lines or because you chose to ignore them?
Here's what was said:
MALKIN: It is crucial that you yourself raise this child.
CLAIRE: You mean with Thomas? Is he..
MALKIN: The father of this child will play no part in it's life, nor yours.
CLAIRE: So what exactly are you saying?
MALKIN: This child parented by anyone else, anyone other than you -- danger surrounds this baby. . .
CLAIRE: Danger?
MALKIN: Your nature, your spirit, your goodness, must be an influence in the development of this child.
To say that someone besides Claire could raise the baby implies flat out that the psychic was wrong.
i think it's sufficiently vague enough, to at least show that Kate wasn't necessarily wrong. Maybe even vague enough for my theory
There's danger for anyone else raising the baby...so certainly Kate is right to get Claire back. 3 years is significant, but not enough, i'd say, that Kate has "raised" Aaron.
But CLaire's nature, spirit & goodness...is that gone now?
Do you have that line about Aaron being raised by ""another"/"An Other"?
As far as I know, that's just the title of the episode, Raised by Another".
EDIT: I'm wrong, the dialogue continued:
Still, even if he said "You mustn't allow an Other to raise your baby", it doesn't offset "anyone other than you", though.
They walked out of the temple with Cindy.
Yah, but maybe they didn't walk right up to UnLocke and join up with him. Maybe Richard was out in the jungle and got to them first. Just like Ben, Sun, etc... got into the temple and got to Miles first and saved him.
No, because if that were indeed the case, the psychic would have wanted to get Claire as far away from Flight 815 as possible. He wouldn't have wanted her to crash on the island in the first place, because that's where the Others are.
Checkmate
Commodore
Psychics don't know everything. For all we know, his premonition may very well have been "the child must not be raised by an Other." But his interpretation of the premonition, which he could only base only on his own knowledge, may have lead him to say what he said.
I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's pretty stupid to try and rationalize something like that with the assumption that psychics are all-knowing and all-seeing.
I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's pretty stupid to try and rationalize something like that with the assumption that psychics are all-knowing and all-seeing.
He admitted to being a fraud in Season 3 anyway...
A fraud who gives away money instead of scamming it off his customers?
I took that as a way of deflecting attention to his daughters miracle. I don't for a second believe that he orchestrated Claire getting on Flight 815 as an "accident" and paying for it out of his own pocket because he was a fraud.
He genuinely saw something with Claire and knew the island was the only place the baby should be raised.
Sure, or that. But either way I think the guy definitely had visions about Aaron and knew at least part of what was coming.
I wonder whether that will ever be explained. I hope so - we need to know what is special about Aaron.
I didn't like this ep much since it doesn't make sense.
Why does SmokeyLocke need to "win over" the inhabitants of the temple in order to leave the island? Why does he kill the people who remain? And once everybody dies, they are on the way to somewhere else again? I know that all the people on the island are deathly afraid of asking questions of each other but sometimes it just gets a little too ridiculous.
I too think that Sayid is the Snape-gambit from Jacob. He's supposed to "go over" to the MIB's side and then eventually turn good and assist in Jacob-Good triumphing over MIB-Evil (or at least a resolution of some sort).
I too thought that Dogen and Lennon in the pool meant that they weren't dead.
And Sayid did warn people to move out.
Not quite sure why he kills Dogen and Lennon unless it's part of his plan that they remain alive. For all we know Jacob manifests to Sayid too? We only have Dogen's word that he's turning "dark".
Also - what did they do? They delivered electroshock therapy (and he feels) and branded him with a poker (and he gets burned by it). Is the dunk in the pool supposed to make you invulnerable or something?
I didn't like this ep much since it doesn't make sense.
Why does SmokeyLocke need to "win over" the inhabitants of the temple in order to leave the island? Why does he kill the people who remain? And once everybody dies, they are on the way to somewhere else again? I know that all the people on the island are deathly afraid of asking questions of each other but sometimes it just gets a little too ridiculous.
I too think that Sayid is the Snape-gambit from Jacob. He's supposed to "go over" to the MIB's side and then eventually turn good and assist in Jacob-Good triumphing over MIB-Evil (or at least a resolution of some sort).
I too thought that Dogen and Lennon in the pool meant that they weren't dead.
And Sayid did warn people to move out.
Not quite sure why he kills Dogen and Lennon unless it's part of his plan that they remain alive. For all we know Jacob manifests to Sayid too? We only have Dogen's word that he's turning "dark".
Also - what did they do? They delivered electroshock therapy (and he feels) and branded him with a poker (and he gets burned by it). Is the dunk in the pool supposed to make you invulnerable or something?
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