Keenser
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http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Keenser
"The script of the film Star Trek introduces Keenser by describing him as "a small, dark, oddly alien creature."
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Keenser
I tried to coin a name for Keenser's species in Seek a Newer World, but I was not allowed to do so, even before the books were cancelled. The filmmakers want to reserve that privilege for themselves, apparently.
I wasn't sure Keenser was even sentient when I saw the movie. A part od me still isn't. Scotty treated him more like a pet, a somewhat intelligent one but not a full sentirnt being. Seeing the script refer to him as a creature makes me start wondering again. He did wear a uniform at the end but that could just be Scotty's sense of humor. At times he seems more like a trained monkey.
And rightfully so.
I wonder if TPTB would block an attempt to include Keener's prime-universe counterpart in a TOS novel?
Ditto Gaila, Robau or any of the other original STXI characters.
Ditto Gaila, Robau or any of the other original STXI characters.
^ I would assume any attempt to create Prime universe counterparts would be blocked since Orci/Kurtzman/Abrams are the creators of those original characters and would most likely have veto power over the usage of them in tie-in media.
Is Keenser that popular? I found him to be an annoying invention myself with little to zero purpose except to look cute. Was there a Keenser action figure? He was probably one of the few things I hated about "Star Trek".
Is Keenser that popular? I found him to be an annoying invention myself with little to zero purpose except to look cute. Was there a Keenser action figure? He was probably one of the few things I hated about "Star Trek".
At this point, probably, unless they were to be mere name drops.
Put one of them into a novel in a meatier part, and the narrative is probably going to require a species name for Keenser, or the formalizing of background info about Gaila or Robau. It'll happen one day, but let's have a least one movie sequel first.
There was a Keenser prototype sculpted for the 3.75" line, but Wave 2 was canceled:
http://popculturezoo.com/2009/06/playmates-star-trek-second-wave-due-this-fall/
Meanwhile, he was probably one of the few things I liked about Trek XI.
I think he just wasn't talkative. His one line in the movie implied a bit more english fluency than, say, a parrot. And he claimed to be an officer.
I never doubted Keenser's sentience. Nor do I see why so many people hate him so. The comparisons to Jar Jar Binks that cropped up when the film was released where absolutely ridiculous.
I have wondered what Keenser did to "earn" his posting to Delta Vega. Maybe something'll get dropped into one of the nuTOS comics or a Starfleet Academy YA novel.
I have wondered what Keenser did to "earn" his posting to Delta Vega. Maybe something'll get dropped into one of the nuTOS comics or a Starfleet Academy YA novel.
Keenser is cool. Deep Roy is an accomplished physical actor so he was able to give Keenser a lot of personality even without dialogue.
^Yeah, I liked Keenser too. I know he was the goofy alien sidekick, but I actually thought he was a well done goofy alien sidekick. As for his sentience, I never saw any reason to question it either. Sure he might not have spoken much, but I thought the rest of his actions made it perfectly clear that he was sentient.
I have a member of his species serving as an engineer on the Silverfin, called Ensign Feeznar--a somewhat unimpressive young officer, who is proving to be a serious pain in the ass for Lieutenant th'Shaan.
I looked but could find any names, so I called the species the Girinite.
I looked but could find any names, so I called the species the Girinite.
I recall some fan speculation that Keenser may have been related to the aliens in the car chase from Nemesis. Considering humans crop up on a bajillion worlds during TOS, the Romulans, Vulcans, Remans and others are all (relatively recently) related, the Caitians and Kzin are distantly related according to Star Trek Logs etc. such a vague link isn't too much of a reach. Maybe.
Don't remember him - only seen the film once.
Will look out for him as it is on telly tomorrow !
Totally agreed. In his first scenes, he seems to be very much in charge of the place.
I'm guessing that Keenser is supposed to be Scott's assistant, and as mentioned above by Therin perhaps even in charge of the Starfleet outpost, Scott perhaps commandeering him as his engineers mate or something. I'd like to see him do something in the sequel. In no way is my dislike of the character a reflection of Deep Roy.
Not necessarily. After all, Yoda has never been given a species name in all the Star Wars-related media featuring him.
Which is very odd, considering how practically every bit-player alien who was in the background of a crowd scene for 2 seconds has had a whole personal and species history developed in the Expanded Universe by this point.
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