Inevitable : Star Trek XI Delayed

[ALF]

I hate to sound pessimistic about it, and by all means please try and prove me wrong. I'm pretty stoked on anything Trek.

But next week is the start date to film principal photography on Trek XI and it's due out in theatres next Xmas? So, that's about 13 months from now?

A huge SFX picture? In one year. I don't think so. It would be a miracle if it holds steady to it's release date.

Hopefully not pushed back to the summer, but it is a huge movie event. Chances are less likely they'd release in spring 08.

In My Humble Internet Opinion.

 

[Shatinator]

I agree they ran into very simuliar schudueling issues for The Motion Picture & The Wrath of Khan

 

[Flake]

I think they did War of the Worlds (2005) in less time than they are doing Trek XI now and that was a Paramount/ILM production. I wouldn't worry.

EDIT: Just checked and WOTW was green-lit in August 04 and released in July 2005.

 

[Noname Given]

billcosby said:
I hate to sound pessimistic about it, and by all means please try and prove me wrong. I'm pretty stoked on anything Trek.

But next week is the start date to film principal photography on Trek XI and it's due out in theatres next Xmas? So, that's about 13 months from now?

A huge SFX picture? In one year. I don't think so. It would be a miracle if it holds steady to it's release date.

Hopefully not pushed back to the summer, but it is a huge movie event. Chances are less likely they'd release in spring 08.

In My Humble Internet Opinion.

Oh please it's VERY possible. They're probably farming out the CGI to multiple effects houses, and I have a feeling it'll be out on schedule and in good condition too. The principle photography starta in a few days, yes; but it's been in production for over a year so far, and two years from concept to finished product in about the norm these days.

I'll never understand why people think good SFX MUST takes years to produce. In the days where they used physical models, yes, SFX took much more time - but in the CGI age, it's just render time. I can assure you that the CGI folks HAVE NOT just been sitting on their asses - they've been designing and test rendering the models and doing render tests of the stuff in the script, which I suspect has been finished and finalized a while ago.

If this wasn't a Star Trek project, the studio probably would have kept most of this pre-production under wraps; but BECAUSE it's a Star Trek project; and one that Paramount hopes will re-invigorate main stream interest; it's been under the microscope since JJ Abrams said "Hey, I'm doing this..."

UNLESS the impending WGA strike affects pricipal photography production some way; I don't foresee a delay. On this one, they didn't just pick the release date out of a hat.

 

[davejames]

Yeah there's more than enough time. This isn't a LOTR movie after all, it's a Star Trek movie. Even with their huge budget, most of the FX are probably still going to revolve around things like starships and alien planets-- stuff that's fairly easy to do by today's standards I bet.

 

[Captain Craig]

Is it possible, yes, Inevitable, no.

I hope all goes smoothly and we get our movie.
The only problem I see is the one that has already been mentioned by Noname Given of the writers strike. If while filming they suddenly realized some scenes needed reworking via the writing I suppose that could hinder things.
Otherwise I think we are ok.
Cast is in place
Director is set and ready.
Studio is behind it
Script is finalized.

ENGAGE!

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Noname Given said:
I can assure you that the CGI folks HAVE NOT just been sitting on their asses - they've been designing and test rendering the models and doing render tests of the stuff in the script, which I suspect has been finished and finalized a while ago.

They certainly have been... the voices in STARTREK11's head certainly seem to think so, at any rate.

Also, don't forget that we are now well into the second decade of major CGI effects in movies (hard to believe Starship Troopers and Titanic were released ten years ago). What used to take months and months of rendering on 1990's computers now takes weeks or even days.

Paramount is betting the farm on Star Trek. There's no way they'll miss the Christmas 2008 release date.

 

[PowderedToastMan]

Star Trek has a longer production to release time than Paramount's Iron Man and Indy 4 projects and many other films. Sure something can come up, but no they have plenty of time

 

[Kokomo]

What is the average production time of a big budget special effects movie?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

So if there's a strike, it won't hurt this film at all, then?

 

[Amaris]

Babaganoosh said:
So if there's a strike, it won't hurt this film at all, then?

It shouldn't. The writing phase has been completed. Perhaps a revision phase might cause problems, but hopefully nothing serious.

J.

 

[cardinal biggles]

If anything, there might be post-production delays. While the WGA's contract ran out last night, they haven't officially said they're walking. Some news reports suggest that they might convince their writers to keep working until June 2008, at which time the Directors Guild's and Screen Actors Guild's contracts run out. All three unions would strike simultaneously, more or less crippling Hollywood.

At that point, Orci and Kurtzman would be unavailable for rewrites, and Abrams and the cast would be unavailable for reshoots. I'm not sure whether Abrams would be barred from supervising the film's final edit, since he's a producer as well as the director.

 

[Broccoli]

Just to point something out...when they did Generations, they didn't start filming that until spring of 1994 and that was released in theaters by November of the same year.

 

[Skywalker]

cardinal biggles said:
If anything, there might be post-production delays. While the WGA's contract ran out last night, they haven't officially said they're walking. Some news reports suggest that they might convince their writers to keep working until June 2008, at which time the Directors Guild's and Screen Actors Guild's contracts run out. All three unions would strike simultaneously, more or less crippling Hollywood.

You know, I actually kind of wouldn't mind seeing that happen. The studios need to be taken down a few more pegs.

 

[ALF]

Production issues aside, let's not forget this is (arguably) a reboot of classic Trek. That's probably going to require a LOT of tweaking, rescripting, reshooting.

And then there's the test audiences. So sure, SFX movies are being made faster these days, but as another poster pointed out, Paramount is "betting the farm" on this Trek outing. Remember, Enterprise and Nemesis were considered failures to the studio.

So they're going to want to get this one right. And one year from shooting seems a bit of a rush job for an epic film event that this will be.

 

[Green Shirt]

Rotten Broccoli said:
Just to point something out...when they did Generations, they didn't start filming that until spring of 1994 and that was released in theaters by November of the same year.

Gee, you couldn't tell that by the finished product?!?!?!

 

[Jon1701]

It wont be the SFX that hold up the game.

Dont use the prequel trilogies as the benchmark. There's simply no reason for it to take that long. George Lucas's autocratic style of endlessly re-editing and re-shooting episodes 1-3 took most of the time up, as well as all the different CGI characters and sets in the background.

Other factors may come into play, but a year should be more than enough time to complete the SFX on this movie.

 

[Barbados Slim]

billcosby said:
Production issues aside, let's not forget this is (arguably) a reboot of classic Trek. That's probably going to require a LOT of tweaking, rescripting, reshooting.

And then there's the test audiences. So sure, SFX movies are being made faster these days, but as another poster pointed out, Paramount is "betting the farm" on this Trek outing. Remember, Enterprise and Nemesis were considered failures to the studio.

So they're going to want to get this one right. And one year from shooting seems a bit of a rush job for an epic film event that this will be.

What are you bored and looking for things to whine about?

There's an entire production team in place that know their jobs far better than you will ever comprehend. They've got it all mapped out, down to storyboarding the FX shots and figuring out how many FX houses and how many illustrators at those FX houses will be involved and when.

 

[Gepard]

lancemach said:

billcosby said:
Production issues aside, let's not forget this is (arguably) a reboot of classic Trek. That's probably going to require a LOT of tweaking, rescripting, reshooting.

And then there's the test audiences. So sure, SFX movies are being made faster these days, but as another poster pointed out, Paramount is "betting the farm" on this Trek outing. Remember, Enterprise and Nemesis were considered failures to the studio.

So they're going to want to get this one right. And one year from shooting seems a bit of a rush job for an epic film event that this will be.

What are you bored and looking for things to whine about?

There's an entire production team in place that know their jobs far better than you will ever comprehend. They've got it all mapped out, down to storyboarding the FX shots and figuring out how many FX houses and how many illustrators at those FX houses will be involved and when.

Thank you for the positive words! It's nice to hear something upbeat about the subject...

I don't thin anyone should have reason to fear that the production team will miss the deadline. They know their stuff, and ILM is a group of professionals.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

J. Allen said:

Babaganoosh said:
So if there's a strike, it won't hurt this film at all, then?

It shouldn't. The writing phase has been completed.

What if the other unions decide to join with the writers and they strike too? I've heard talk about "respecting the picket line" and things like that.