Inevitable : Star Trek XI Delayed
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billcosby said:
I hate to sound pessimistic about it, and by all means please try and prove me wrong. I'm pretty stoked on anything Trek.
But next week is the start date to film principal photography on Trek XI and it's due out in theatres next Xmas? So, that's about 13 months from now?
A huge SFX picture? In one year. I don't think so. It would be a miracle if it holds steady to it's release date.
Hopefully not pushed back to the summer, but it is a huge movie event. Chances are less likely they'd release in spring 08.
In My Humble Internet Opinion.
For X-men 3 they were doing vfx shots 2 WEEKS before release. More and more movies are requiring more and more vfx shots with less time to complete to get their films on the date they want. Studios getting the dates they want is getting harder and harder and they will do anything NOT to miss that release date.
This is actually a big problem in vfx now that the studios want more from them in less time. This happens b/c vfx houses always get their workload complete, somehow. And so the studios think they can give them less time, the houses complete more in less and it goes in a vicious cycle. The thought is one day a major film will be pushed back bc vfx aren't complete and then a studio will be forced to re-schedule thereby losing tons of money. (this may have already happened, too tired to think)
War of the Worlds actually brought the above issue to light because of its super rushed schedule.
Ignoring my tangent, there is alot of time still to complete post-production work on this one mostly probably b.c there isn't alot of R&D on this film-(Transformers was like 3yrs I think).
Before anyone asks, this is the field I work in, so I know about this stuff.
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For the moment I don't think that will happen. In a few months we might see it though.
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Okay, I respect your input.
Of course, as a viewer, I'd like to add that rushing films shows in the final product. Transformers looked like it'd been polished properly and represented a finished product.
War of the Worlds on the other hand... let's just say it doesn't have a place on my DVD shelf!
The actors and directors won't be striking anytime soon.
I think the directors and actors contracts are up soon, too (June I believe), so is it at all possible that they could strike as well? If they do, what could that mean for STAR TREK XI? Will Abrams (being a guild member himself) not be allowed to work on the film if the directors guild were to go on strike?EyalM said:
It's just moral support, they aren't going to strike any time soon.
klingongoat said:
Gee, you couldn't tell that by the finished product?!?!?!
Wow...that was completely uncalled for. Thank you.
My point wasn't about the quality of the film, but rather that filming a movie when there is a script and cast in place can happen pretty quickly assuming you have an efficient schedule and dedicated crew.
Casino Royale had a similar timetable. And Rocky (though SFX empty) had a VERY short shoot. Hopefully those examples won't put your undies in a bunch and cause me to get another eye-roll.
What, you didn't know that they're going to have the new Enterprise crewed primarily by Gungans? (Oops, I let a top-secret plot point told by my bestestest buddie at ILM out! DAMN!)
War of the Worlds and X-Men 3 both helped to set a precedent for these types of big expensive SFX heavy films to be shot, edited and released in about a year. The fact that these types of film are coming out and raking in the cash means the trend isn't going to stop anytime soon either. It's actually putting a tremendous strain on the special effects industry.
Uh, why? Yes, it's an important movie for Paramount, but re-shooting and re-scripting is only done when they decide there's a major problem very late in the production. There's no indication that any such problems have arisen, and they haven't even started shooting yet.
There isn't one.
Kokomo said:
I think the directors and actors contracts are up soon, too (June I believe), so is it at all possible that they could strike as well? If they do, what could that mean for STAR TREK XI? Will Abrams (being a guild member himself) not be allowed to work on the film if the directors guild were to go on strike?EyalM said:
It's just moral support, they aren't going to strike any time soon.
I doubt it will take7 monbths to complete any pricipal photography or reshoots. Nothing to worry about in that respect. As for the actors 'supporting' the WGA - it MORAL support. If the actors walked at this time, they'd be in contract violation, and their union subject to massive fines. The actors also WILL probably walk when their contracts expire in June; but the entire reason scipts were 'stockpiled' was because studios wanted to continue production for as long as threy can during the WGA strike.
Personally, it just goes to show how stubborn and stupid the studios are; because it's not about money (4 cents more per DVD - they can do tht ithout batting an eye); it's about the studios standing firm and maintaining the 'status quo' where writers are treated like trash - the fitrst to submit work (the script from which EVERYTHING else flows) - yet, they are usually the LAST to be paid.
'Hollywood' doesn't want to appear weak with both the SAG and DGA contracts expiring in siz months. So, they'll run the business into the ground for a year rather that appear 'weak' at this point.
In the end it's just going to hirt their overall bottom line because, if it goes on too long, people will just find other things to do to entertain themselves; and the 'Big 4' network veiwership will just continue to erode; and box office revenue will follow suit.
But as far as Star Trek XI; they can't change te script (WGA is on strike); so I doubt reshoots will be needed (and if the WGA strike last even as long as it did in 1987 - 5 months); that's still leave 2 months IF Abrams wants any reshoots.
So, again, unless they want a MAJOR scrot change at this point; 'Star Trek XI' is virtually strike proof. The prinicipal photoragphy should be in the can by February at the latest - and that's A LOT of time to shoot one film.
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