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If there were no Star Trek...

I think a lot of the Trek fans who were virgin basement dwellers in high school then entered the tech industry where their social life vastly improved and they moved out of their parents' basement very quickly.

Or they went to college or discovered fandom or became Star Trek writers . . . .

The world is not high school. In my experience,Trekkies grow up, move out of their parents' houses, meet people, and get into relationships. . . just like everyone else.

(Only last week I ran into some college kids who are huge into Trek--and, yeah, they're all dating each other.)
 
My wife enjoys Trek and Who, but she's not a hardcore fan. Who more than Trek (Curse you David Tennant!) She's clueless about comics.
 
That's OUTSTANDING! I have Great Lusts of My Life, though. I just need a woman for sex and some levity. I already enjoy STAR TREK, I don't need her for that. I tell you true: if she sticks around, that's fine. If she doesn't, that's fine, too. But I have to give it the best chance of success. Don't scare her away with horror stories from my past, or that I'm into geeky sci-fi shows. We go out to dinner and it's just good food, good company. It's a seperate reality ... all it's own. If I let her invade my privacy too much, all that goes bye-bye and I don't want that.

Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)
Do you know enough about either group to be sure?
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)

So not a sci-fi convention then. :)
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)
I once met a guy who wasn't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek... :vulcan:

Well, okay - two, if you count the 85-year-old I met in the hospital who kept ranting about all the money wasted on the space program and computers, never once realizing that some of the money and research that went into that also led to the technology that was keeping him alive.
 
I have many, many wonderful interests, that I find very, very engaging. /Lassard

If not for Star Trek, I'd still have Star Wars, Doctor Who, piles and piles of science fiction books and magazines, and my ponies, of course. So while I love Star Trek, and am happy to have it in my life as an interest, I would still be who I am, and there would still be much for me to enjoy and discover.
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)
I once met a guy who wasn't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek... :vulcan:

Well, okay - two, if you count the 85-year-old I met in the hospital who kept ranting about all the money wasted on the space program and computers, never once realizing that some of the money and research that went into that also led to the technology that was keeping him alive.
Which has what exactly to do with not understanding Star Trek?
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)
Do you know enough about either group to be sure?
Unfortunately, yes.

Well, I say that, but actually, the time I spent as a DJ was really a lot of fun. Especially waiting until people were drunk and making up something that someone else, preferably also drunk, there had said about them. (Yeah - I know, not nice. But since way too many of these were unpaid gigs, I had to get my kicks somehow. :devil: )
So not a sci-fi convention then. :)
I think that's a safe assumption. :D
Which has what exactly to do with not understanding Star Trek?
Just a guess, but if you consider actual space exploration a waste of time and money, you're probably not a fan of the bright future represented by Star Trek.
 
Sorority houses filled with upper crust trust fund girls who think that any hobby that doesn't double as an opportunity to network and rub elbows with the wealthy and powerful is a stupid and weird waste of time?

Women in the bar scene who aren't intelligent enough to understand Star Trek, and so think anyone who likes it is a weirdo?

(That's two social circles that I've known that would fit what you ask, and I want no part of them. Not sure that's what 2takesfrakes is dealing with, obviously.)
Do you know enough about either group to be sure?
Unfortunately, yes.

Well, I say that, but actually, the time I spent as a DJ was really a lot of fun. Especially waiting until people were drunk and making up something that someone else, preferably also drunk, there had said about them. (Yeah - I know, not nice. But since way too many of these were unpaid gigs, I had to get my kicks somehow. :devil: )

How often did the topic of Star Trek come up at your DJ gigs? And is any one drunk going to display "intelligence"?

So not a sci-fi convention then. :)
I think that's a safe assumption. :D
Which has what exactly to do with not understanding Star Trek?
Just a guess, but if you consider actual space exploration a waste of time and money, you're probably not a fan of the bright future represented by Star Trek.
I've found that being entertained and one's choice of entertainment doesn't always reflect their socioeconomic views.

I've seen more than a few drunk idiots at SF conventions.

I love it when people who claim their group is the victim of broad generalizations, make broad generalizations about other groups.
 
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Some would consider interest in Star Trek as a signal that one spends a majority of his time engaged in non-productive pursuits, and is not extraverted or socially powerful.

I don't think interest in Star Trek requires intelligence, so much as it requires a certain curious mindset. I might describe it as being 'N' rather than 'S' on the Myers-Briggs scale.
 
Okay, I'm curious: What social circles are running in where being a Trekkie is such a girl repellent? I'm not challenging you; it just seems like a very unfamiliar milieu.
No, I know you're not challenging me. :) Ask me anything. I do not mind. In answer to your question: I am loosely involved in "events" within the Hospitality Industry. I meet chicks through that, mostly.
 
Yeah, I've never met a parent's basement dwelling nerd virgin Trek fan either.

The only thing that stopped me from being one is that I've never lived in a place with a basement. Hell, I've never even SEEN a basement.

That being said, I'd no longer qualify as that anyhow.
 
Funny story: I once made the mistake of thanking my parents in the Acknowledgments for letting me borrow their computer. (I had visited them one summer while under a tight deadline.) Imagine my reaction when a snarky reviewer seized on this line as "proof" that I was, in fact, a basement-dwelling nerd who still lived with my parents!

I was stunned. Who knew people even read the Acknowledgments? :)
 
Funny story: I once made the mistake of thanking my parents in the Acknowledgments for letting me borrow their computer. (I had visited them one summer while under a tight deadline.) Imagine my reaction when a snarky reviewer seized on this line as "proof" that I was, in fact, a basement-dwelling nerd who still lived with my parents!

I was stunned. Who knew people even read the Acknowledgments? :)
I read them.

Besides, how do people know what room you were in when you borrowed the computer? For all they know, it could have been in the ball room, or the dining room, or the library... :p
 
...how do people know what room you were in when you borrowed the computer? For all they know, it could have been in the ball room, or the dining room, or the library... :p

That's because for some, the shortest road to wisdom is to assume.
 
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