If Kes stayed aboard Voyager during Season 4, how well would she and Seven get along?

[BohandiAnsoid]

Removing Kes from Voyager is, in my opinion, one of the worst things that happened to Star Trek. Especially when Seven of Nine was introduced, considering Seven and Kes are opposites in certain ways. Kes has the chronological age of a human child, but is an adult for her species and has the body and mind of an adult (especially Season 3 Kes). Seven is a human of human chronological age and has a mature body, but her mind is still a bit childish and she is pretty naive at times. Kes started with almost no knowledge of the universe outside but has capacity to learn very quickly. And they both have some special abilities, but Kes’ abilities come from her and her unique biology (and unique mind, too), while Seven’s abilities come from her Borg implants and are completely artificial. Kes naturally reaches out to people while Seven has to be reached out to.

Because of that, I think their interactions would be interesting. I think they would get along at least somewhat, even because of their differences (after all, one of main reasons for Seven - B’Elanna animosity was that they were pretty similar). I think Kes might have reached out to Seven and befriended her. She might have helped any situation between Seven and Harry Kim if it happened. And maybe, Seven could give Kes an extended lifetime. And, since it is clear Kes and B’Elanna were friends, Kes might have mediated between B’Elanna and Seven. However, there may be some rivalry and jealousy, since they are both kind of Janeway’s daughters.

I assume no one died instead of Kes leaving and there are 10 main characters here.

So, what do you think about this subject?

 

[Oddish]

I think that a lot of aspects of Kes's relationship with the Doctor would also be in play here. Her kindness, her open mindedness, her willingness to reach out. In a way, it's too bad the two were never able to form a relationship.

Honestly, given that Chakotay was shoved to the back burner and Harry was never anywhere else, either would have been a better choice for elimination. If nothing else, if Harry had been written off when his rank still made sense, he wouldn't be the ridicule magnet he is today.

 

[Lynx]

Removing Kes from Voyager is, in my opinion, one of the worst things that happened to Star Trek. Especially when Seven of Nine was introduced, considering Seven and Kes are opposites in certain ways. Kes has the chronological age of a human child, but is an adult for her species and has the body and mind of an adult (especially Season 3 Kes). Seven is a human of human chronological age and has a mature body, but her mind is still a bit childish and she is pretty naive at times. Kes started with almost no knowledge of the universe outside but has capacity to learn very quickly. And they both have some special abilities, but Kes’ abilities come from her and her unique biology (and unique mind, too), while Seven’s abilities come from her Borg implants and are completely artificial. Kes naturally reaches out to people while Seven has to be reached out to.

Because of that, I think their interactions would be interesting. I think they would get along at least somewhat, even because of their differences (after all, one of main reasons for Seven - B’Elanna animosity was that they were pretty similar). I think Kes might have reached out to Seven and befriended her. She might have helped any situation between Seven and Harry Kim if it happened. And maybe, Seven could give Kes an extended lifetime. And, since it is clear Kes and B’Elanna were friends, Kes might have mediated between B’Elanna and Seven. However, there may be some rivalry and jealousy, since they are both kind of Janeway’s daughters.

I assume no one died instead of Kes leaving and there are 10 main characters here.

So, what do you think about this subject?

Many good ideas in your post.

I think that Kes and Seven would get along very good.

I think that a lot of aspects of Kes's relationship with the Doctor would also be in play here. Her kindness, her open mindedness, her willingness to reach out. In a way, it's too bad the two were never able to form a relationship.

Honestly, given that Chakotay was shoved to the back burner and Harry was never anywhere else, either would have been a better choice for elimination. If nothing else, if Harry had been written off when his rank still made sense, he wouldn't be the ridicule magnet he is today.

But if Chakotay and Kim had been killed off, there would have been impossible to make something better of the characters in books and fanfiction.

 

[Oddish]

But if Chakotay and Kim had been killed off, there would have been impossible to make something better of the characters in books and fanfiction.

That's what AU's are for.

 

[Lynx]

That's what AU's are for.

But even better for the main Star Trek Universe.

Not to mention the Lynxverse!

 

[WarpTenLizard]

I'm going to repeat myself here. But here's the scenario in my head:

After Seven is liberated, Kes uses her telepathy to provide another "voice" in Seven's head, easing her transition to the sudden "silence" of losing the Collective. In doing so, Kes becomes Seven's first friend. Kes also begins to mentor the Doctor in how to mentor Seven in social skills.

As Seven becomes more human, Kes is going in the opposite direction, as she explores her powers. The season ends with Kes's assention. Seven's first friend on Voyager becomes the first one she has to say goodbye to.