Oh, you are right. But circumstances and result were quite different compared with ST09, of course.
Entertainment Weekly Reviews The Star Trek Movies
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I think that's the point the review guy is sort of making. It may be coincidence after all, but it's a bunch of things that seem to carry over (there's also the technical doppelganger repeat, one of whom is technically responsible for the bad guys empowerment, there's a scene where brand new transporter tech puts the hero in a position to save the day, there's Romulans being held responsible as a group for the actions of one rogue element, there's a bald captain boarding the enemies ship on a suicide mission hoping to reason with a bald villain, there's the by now silly super weapon, there's the suicide attack on said weapon, with a last minute beam out that data didn't get. There's rampant navigational idiocy that exists purely to serve the plot. There's the bit where the villain stops to use his super weapon on his personal vendetta rather than going to destroy earth as was their goal. It's reducing the films to silly component parts in a way that may not be entirely fair, but it sure is funny. And possibly an accurate study of the approach to sequels these days, particularly JJ's.)
Most of his points are valid, but NuKirk deliberately destroying his uncle's car as a kid has nothing to do with Picard's unconventional re-embarkation manoeuvre.
He's talking about it as a cinematic set piece and not as a plot point though. Which is true.
I suspect he's counting Kirk stealing the Enterprise in TSFS.
STID
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/19/star-trek-darkness-decadent-los-angeles-panorama
also been listening to the accompanying podcast for all the films. quite fun listening http://vidiotsshow.libsyn.com/
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/19/star-trek-darkness-decadent-los-angeles-panorama
also been listening to the accompanying podcast for all the films. quite fun listening http://vidiotsshow.libsyn.com/
His reviews get progressively worse. Mind you, my thoughts on those movies are not a direct curve upward..but his reviews..more pointless as he goes on. Maybe because he cared less? So definitely some preconceptions there.
None of the more "important" parts of STID are critiqued, or even the characters and there's a lot of character progression here from the last movie.
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None of the more "important" parts of STID are critiqued, or even the characters and there's a lot of character progression here from the last movie.
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I particularly enjoy the fact that his essays use the movies as jumping-off points to talk about their more eccentric aspects. I'm no more interested in one more reviewer's assessment of how Khan was handled in STID than I am in one more fan's. 
It's a shame that after all of this EW didn't give Franich the assignment of reviewing Star Trek Beyond. I don't know whether he'd have liked or hated it, but he'd certainly turn in a more interesting and thoughtful piece than the guy who did review it.
It's a shame that after all of this EW didn't give Franich the assignment of reviewing Star Trek Beyond. I don't know whether he'd have liked or hated it, but he'd certainly turn in a more interesting and thoughtful piece than the guy who did review it.
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Warning: spoilers aplenty in the review.
Wait, that was Chekov? I thought it was just some random crewman. Did I miss something when I watched the movie or is Franich mistaken?
Chekov was quite the ladies man in STB, first it's the Orion woman, then he walks off Enterprise at Yorktown with another gal, the first thing he does after meeting Jalyah is check out her ass, then there's the fish lady at Kirk's party (and I think I might be leaving someone out).
When I think of TMP, the word "antiseptic" comes to mind. It's the exact opposite, to me, of Star War's "used universe".
The antiseptic aesthetic of TMP is in keeping with other sci-fi films of its day -- particularly 2001 and Robert Wise's own The Andromeda Strain.
Because space travel and contact between different species planets and cultural backgrounds really should be clean.
There's a real lack of space plague in Star Wars, given the ground in dirt that even Mr.Muscle won't touch on some of those ships. The empire and the crew of the Tantive iv knew their way round a mop and bucket mind you. No sith lurgee there.
TOS was 1966-69. 2001 was made in '68. SW was made in '77 and ushered in the era of the "fun" blockbusters (With Jaw's help). TMP came out in '79. It missed its era by just a few years. One might argue if TMP had come out in the early to mid-70's, it might have been received and remembered completely differently.
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