Dune [Part 3] Messiah 2027 (28, 29, 30...)

[Mage]

I'm not.

I'm legitimately shocked by this.

 

[MarcKle1964]

His name is Robert Pattinson. His name is Robert Pattinson. His name is Robert Pattinson... (holds bar of soap up in the air)

 

[fireproof78]

His name is Robert Pattinson. His name is Robert Pattinson. His name is Robert Pattinson... (holds bar of soap up in the air)

He seems like a nice guy.

 

[Timewalker]

And you fail to grasp the basic concept of consideration and maybe kindness towards others.

You ignored my point that said it's ok when you are in a clearly marked spoiler area such as this, enter at your own risk or as you say when you enter a discussion about a book or anything without having read/seen it in a dedicated area of a forum or somewhere else like a panel discussion at a convention.

What i am saying though that outside these areas it is simply rude to just blurt out stuff without having the slightest thought if it would affect others. If a conversation ends up in possible spoiler territory when it started about something completely else would you still spoil it for the person you talk to because it's been decades since the material was released or will you hold back and at least ask if that person is ok with spoilers?

You do realize that even if I address one person, there are many others who could be lurking and read the thread even if they don't want to comment, right? Should I send a mass PM to everyone on the forum to ask their permission to talk about something that happened in a 60-year-old book that the showrunner isn't even following as he pretends he is?

If you wish to be taken serious like an adult, act like one. Otherwise, I am done wasting my time on a teenager.
To the mods, I am aware such behavior on my part is most likely against forum rules, and I do apologize. But really, the last few pages here went nowhere because of such childish posting.

Y'know, I could be all stiff and formal and Spockian if I wanted. That used to be my posting style, no matter which forum I was on, and people said they didn't like it. So I loosened up some, and now you're presuming to lecture me and calling me a "teenager" (name-calling is so childish)? I first read Dune back in 1983. Do the math. I'm no teenager, and I've read the entire series multiple times over the decades. I know what I'm talking about. I do not need to ask anyone's permission to discuss a book that's been out since I was 2 years old.

I'm legitimately shocked by this.

Why? Have you heard of everyone I've heard of? Is there some reason why I should scamper over to Wikipedia to remedy my deficient knowledge? Is this someone who is legitimately important, or just some celebrity that you know about and I don't, given that I don't watch a lot of TV or movies anymore?

 

[theenglish]

I like your curveball! That would be a great move, IMO.

Especially if, subsequent movies do not touch on GEoD directly - introducing Leto II into the Messiah / Children movie as narrator / perspective - would be incredible!

In my mind, to fully play out Paul’s path, Leto II has to be introduced and explored to fruition - for the full meaning and weight of Paul’s / Leto II’s choices to be realised.

I don’t have prescience, but I’m imagining the possibilities… lol!

I think we had that discussion previously, but not with relation to Messiah. The idea was that the best way to film God Emperor would be to do it with Children and have Children of Dune being Leto's memories while the "present" story of God Emperor was happening. Basically, it would condense the back story between Children and God Emperor.

 

[Timewalker]

And how would Leto's memories be able to tell the parts of the story that Leto wasn't there to witness?

 

[Anwar]

And how would Leto's memories be able to tell the parts of the story that Leto wasn't there to witness?

Part of Dune's whole "Genetic Memory" thing is that someone born with those psychic powers can actually tap into the memories of their ancestors to see things as they saw them.

Don't ask how it works.

 

[Set Harth]

But what about characters who aren't Leto's ancestors?

 

[Anwar]

But what about characters who aren't Leto's ancestors?

I dunno, I'm not onboard with this idea myself

 

[MarcKle1964]

Part of Dune's whole "Genetic Memory" thing is that someone born with those psychic powers can actually tap into the memories of their ancestors to see things as they saw them.

Don't ask how it works.

That was what broke my suspension of disbelief with the Dune series towards the end. A Ghola tapping into their memories when their body was recently dead? Sure, why not? That's no less a fantasy than Obi-wan's spirit returning in Star Wars sequels. If Mary Shelley had written that the transplanted Abby Normal brain had retained memories that revived after Dr Fronkensteen reanimated the body, that might have been a page too far, but perhaps not.

Thousands of years later after many reGhola-ings and the body not always being recovered? They're hyper smart and have the reflexes of and can instinctively fight like Enter The Dragon Bruce Lee at the age of a child? Naw.

 

[Anwar]

That was what broke my suspension of disbelief with the Dune series towards the end. A Ghola tapping into their memories when their body was recently dead? Sure. Why not? If Mary Shelley had written that the transplanted Abby Normal brain had retained memories that came back after Dr Fraunkensteen reanimated the body, that might have been a page too far, but perhaps not.

Thousands of years later after many reGhola-ings and the body not always being recovered? And they're hyper smart and have the reflexes of and can instinctively fight like Enter The Dragon Bruce Lee at the age of a child? Naw.

The immense arrogance of Leto II as a kid because he figured "Hey, I have the minds of adults in me so everyone just obey me!" really made me dislike him too.

Which is why I liked the less smug version James McAvoy played in Children and how they streamlined a lot of the bloated plotting there.

 

[fireproof78]

Part of Dune's whole "Genetic Memory" thing is that someone born with those psychic powers can actually tap into the memories of their ancestors to see things as they saw them.

Don't ask how it works.

Ah, so he's s Trill or the Avatar.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ah, so he's s Trill or the Avatar.

He is the worm and the host.

 

[Mage]

Y'know, I could be all stiff and formal and Spockian if I wanted. That used to be my posting style, no matter which forum I was on, and people said they didn't like it. So I loosened up some, and now you're presuming to lecture me and calling me a "teenager" (name-calling is so childish)? I first read Dune back in 1983. Do the math. I'm no teenager, and I've read the entire series multiple times over the decades. I know what I'm talking about. I do not need to ask anyone's permission to discuss a book that's been out since I was 2 years old.

Cool story.

 

[Timewalker]

Cool story.

Pointless post.

 

[Timewalker]

Part of Dune's whole "Genetic Memory" thing is that someone born with those psychic powers can actually tap into the memories of their ancestors to see things as they saw them.

Don't ask how it works.

LOL.

Newsflash, not all the characters of Children of Dune were Leto's ancestors and of those who were, not all of them were in every scene.